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Title: T6 speakers Post by maddog07 on 02/17/23 at 20:26:49 there was all kinds of over the top "buzz"about these at the last Zenfest in the recorded video - I was not able to attend this last fest. I see they are now officially available for sale on the website. But I find very little to no mention of them anywhere.
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Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by Paul2 on 02/17/23 at 20:38:33 To answer your questions 1. Yes, there are some people who have them in their systems. But, we see very little talk on the forum about them. 2. I believe Steve said that they are in stock.. So, there should not have much wait time. 3. I do not have a pair but have heard them at Decfest and they look excellent and sound the same. |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by BlackBess on 02/17/23 at 22:25:18 I ordered a pair last October & received them I think in less than a week. To me they look nicer than any speaker or any other piece of furniture we own. But they’re in my back basement hobby spot. You know, near the washer, dryer, furnace & water heater. If my wife is around you should hear her complain when I play Infected Mushroom upstairs. But for what they are they sound very nice with my old Had. I think between cone area, cabinet size & cost,that should give you an idea of their limitations. The T6’s are rated down to 55Hz +/- 3db I believe, but depending on source & musical selection seem to play much lower. Still I plan to ad a REL sub some day. So I’m hoping when my DNA II’s are delivered they sound 3 times better. J/K Maybe these aren’t popular because they’re not made in this hemisphere. They also took longer than usual to break in, but maybe that was just my pair. I didn’t condemn them to the dungeon right away, they “Had” to work their way there. ![]() ![]() phone screen resolution test |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by Paul2 on 02/17/23 at 22:57:20 They may only be a half a dog high and a dog and a half long but they sure can fly ! |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by ddaarr on 02/20/23 at 22:46:47 Curious to hear if you felt the need to run a subwoofer after break-in? |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by BlackBess on 02/21/23 at 06:55:16 Mr. ddaarr, if you are asking me, I would say that in my situation that I would like to add something like the Rel Tx-5. If you had these on nice stands in the middle of your room you may feel differently. But before mine were run in sufficiently they were on top of my Forte IV’s (out in the middle of the room) & they weren’t cutting the mustard. But my desire to use these speakers had a lot to do with size & placement requirements. Depending on room size the Zu DW6 (for example) is going to energize more of the total spectrum of sound for about the same price. But I like cone area. I know how people talk about superior soundstaging with narrower front baffles (I have KEF’s) but I like how a bigger speaker gets more air moving with less drama. Holy smokes, your results may differ. But interestingly the wife was helping me in the basement when some more Infected Mushroom came on. “Bliss on Mushrooms” I believe. Well instead of “this sounds like noise to me” like before, I hear her singing “oh wee oh” like one of the wicked witch’s guards. So maybe the difference was mood, the particular IF tune or was it the T6’s singing their sweet siren song. Again, holy cow what a hoot. Anywho, wadda ya think about that, I’m sleeping down at the laundrymat. Got no clothes to clean, to put inside the machine. ![]() remove duplicate text |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by Tony on 02/21/23 at 17:16:12 Hey maddog07, You will find more T6 responses in the category "A newbie's questions.. It looks and sounds very good. |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by Littlebit72 on 02/22/23 at 00:35:35 "They may only be a half a dog high and a dog and a half long but they sure can fly !" Jajajajaja! |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by Littlebit72 on 02/22/23 at 00:39:22 Yes, these guys sure know what they are talking about and have helped me a lot. I'm seriously thinking of getting either the T6 or the Trapeziums. May have to hunt someone down to listen to them en person. |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by ddaarr on 02/27/23 at 02:36:20 Thank you to all that contributed to the Decware T6 information. I have an opportunity to locally buy some Omega Bookshelf, not the Alnicos. Both brands are the same retail price. Anyone chime in with experience with both or can compare either brands. Room is 11x15, medium listening levels, and a SET tube amp in the future. |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by bramar on 02/27/23 at 03:19:50 If you’re going for a fleawatt amp + single driver speakers, prepare for astonishing realism with vocals at the expense of bass impact and general fullness of sound. vocals, solo or a couple instruments sound phenomenal. that means acoustic, renaissance, classical baroque, jazz trio, etc will be rendered beautifully. forget about pop and rock….not very impressive. So you will be limited in music genres. that is my personal experience. Brad |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by Tony on 02/27/23 at 06:48:11 Hey ddaarr, I've posted on my comparison of the T6 and Omega Alnicos elsewhere giving the nod to Omega. The Alnico variable was the difference. I can't say without it. You probably can't go wrong with either. Good luck. |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by morp on 02/27/23 at 15:30:06 I swapped from Trapeziums to T6 for nearfield listening on a desk. Both are excellent speakers and I'm very happy with the sound I'm getting. My use case (speakers 3 feet from my ears) is likely different from most folks, but happy to answer any questions! Richard |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by Craig B on 03/21/23 at 18:53:55 Hi. I have had the T6’s for about 3 months and I run them with a Rel T5i subwoofer. I found in my incrementally improving system I am really happy with them. They did take a long time to break in as another person in the thread noted, stick with them. The T6’s are fast and transparent to my ears and when there is air, space and energy in the recording the T6’s show you this beautifully. They have good bass but lack a really low end as per their spec. If the recording has really bass weight and punch the T6’s will give you this. If you want real base thump then may want something bigger, these have more than enough bass for me. The sub just adds the really low notes. They also look really great, lovely finish and shape and put out a really big room sound for a modest sized bookshelf speaker. A couple of weeks back I added some ZFOCUS speaker cables. These made another good improvement. They added another layer of transparency and opened up the sound stage. I am in line for the Sarah 300b amp, hopefully is the next couple of months. I am really excited to connect them up-to the T6’s. I choose the T6’s after watching the 2022 Decfest video’s. The consensus seemed to be they were a really good match with the Sarah. |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by Alfazed on 06/22/24 at 00:01:45 Hi everyone, First time posting here, after lurking for about a year. - I have always loved listening to music and enjoyed auditioning, building, and tweaking my sound system within my budget and space constraints, and thanks to my friend and neighbor Tony (also here on the forum), I discovered what tube amps and a well-treated listening space can bring, and I am hooked. I bought a James Burgess custom SET amp from his co-builder, and I love it. The amp can switch between 300B and 2A3-40 tube "modes" by switching the filament supply - pretty cool, and like having two amps in one. I'm just about to experiment with upgrading my rectifier and output tubes based on the builder's recommendations. When I got the amp, I decided that more sensitive speakers would be a good idea, and after reading the feedback here on the site about the T6 bookshelf speakers, I ordered a pair and am very happy with them, even more so now that I have added a KEF KC62 sub. As I fall deeper and deeper into the audiophile hole, I am embarking on a self-education program, starting with a better understanding of some of the sound measurement technicalities, which brings me to my questions (at long last!). After reading articles and watching videos on youtube (i.e. erinsaudiocorner and amirm from ASR), I decided I would test my comprehension by looking at the graphs provided on this site for the T6 speakers, and see how well I can interpret them. (I can't post a link, but they are on the T6 product page.) The first graph, frequency response, seems pretty clear, but I have a few questions: 1. Does the fact that 15 and 30 degree measurements are given make this this a "listening window" measurement? 2. (related) can I assume that the 15 and 30 degrees are horizontal relative to the listening axis, not vertical? 3. All 3 lines (1,15,30) track each other closely up to about 1k Hz, then they diverge, increasingly, up to the "brilliance range. Can I interpret this to mean that speaker positioning relative to my listening spot is going to have a greater impact at the frequencies higher than 1k Hz than before they start to diverge? 4. The note says measurements were take at 12" from the speaker at a "healthy" SPL - is there any way to see from the graph what the actual SPL was? Does that correlate to volume? 5. I've seen FR graphs for other speakers where the curve of the lower frequency drop-off is very steep, compared to the T6. Does the T6's relatively shallow slope have any implication for the crossover level I should set on my sub (currently a bit below 60Hz)? 2nd chart - waterfall plot at high SPL. 1. I'm not sure how I ought to be reading this chart. When I search waterfall charts and speakers, I see what look like charts from room measurements, and that seems like a different use case (although maybe the same kind of data?). If anyone can point me to a good reference, I'd be grateful. 2. Since it looks like a 3-d topo map, I'm thinking in terms of terrain - where is the slope steep, and where is it shallow? And the "ridge line" has some dips and rises, but it doesn't look like the Alps - what might all that mean? 3rd and 4th chart - RMS average response and TTL harmonic distortion vs response - no clue! As above, if anyone can point me to a good reference for what these kinds of measurements mean for a speaker, I'd be grateful. Thanks! Ann |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by Lon on 06/22/24 at 01:00:43 Welcome Ann! |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by Donnie on 06/22/24 at 03:21:19 This guy is really good at explaining what all of the graphs mean. https://www.youtube.com/@GRResearch He is a little annoying sometimes, he is right and everyone else is wrong, but his videos do explain what you are asking about. |
Title: Re: T6 speakers Post by CAJames on 06/22/24 at 16:47:31 This is all JMO/FWIW. In general I'm a numbers guy and inclined to geek out over charts, and for years I would read the speaker test data in Stereophile pretty carefully. And my big takeaway is whatever the measurements are they pretty much go out the window as soon as you put the speakers in your room and hook them up to your amp and the rest of your system. The one graph I though was interesting was the speaker impedance and phase angle as a function of frequency because that doesn't change from room to room and tells you a lot about how a speaker will match with your amp. But I've never seen that (or don't remember) for a Decware speaker. Presumably it is pretty benign for it to perform well with a 2 watt amp, but I still wonder. The frequency response graph can tell you (more or less) where the bass rolls off, or if there is a peak (or trough) in e.g. the midbass or presence region, but all that can change drastically depending on the rest of your system and room. Theoretically the graphs may tell you something about e.g. the crossover point for your subwoofer but you'd be crazy to set it based on a plot and not by ear. Same thing for speaker positioning. So to answer your question directly, you can learn a lot from reading the technical part of speaker reviews on the Stereophile website, although that is a lot more work than a youtube video. Again, JMO/FWIW and all that. |
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