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Title: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 12/26/23 at 17:41:06 Please post any questions here. I’ll start off: 1) Can you explain the value proposition with respect to the Puron? In other words, if I was gunning for a Puron, should I get this instead or is Snubway doing something different but complimentary to the Puron? 2) My amp is connected directly to a dedicated 20 amp circuit with 10 awg cryo’d romex via a cryo’d duplex outlet. What is better connected to the second unutilized receptacle in the same outlet —Puron or Snubway? 3) My source gear is connected to the second dedicated circuit via a conditioner/distributor that works wonderfully, but it’s not a typical power strip so I don’t know which of the four receptacles comes first—they are all independent as far as I know. In this situation, what would you recommend between Puron (I still have an unutilized receptacle on the second outlet as well) vs. Snubway?

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by will on 12/26/23 at 17:44:09 Thanks for starting this thread Kamran. I look forward to more information and answers to your questions. The Snubway looks intersting! Will

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by 4krow on 12/26/23 at 17:59:41 If you can, photos would help. I am unfamiliar with each of the products mentioned.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 12/26/23 at 18:15:43 4krow—here’s a pic of the Puron and link to website: https://verafiaudiollc.com/products/best-audio-products/puron-plug-in-ac-line-conditioner-52299808 Mark posted a pic of the upcoming Snubway in the SDFB thread-posting it here resized:

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by HockessinKid on 12/26/23 at 19:18:18 FWIW, it looks like Mark said Vera-Fi would be releasing 3 DC snubbing products which I assume includes the SnubWay. The Puron has both a male three prong 15 amp NEMA AC out and female three prong 15 amp NEMA AC in for use in the U.S. Thus it appears to be designed as an attachment between a piece of equipment or power conditioner via a power cord and the AC receptacle. The SnubWay picture Mark posted only has a male three prong 15 amp NEMA AC out. I could be wrong, but I think this option is designed for use in a multiple outlet device, such as a surge protector or multiple outlet power conditioner. Since there are going to be two additional DC snubbers, we'll just have to wait to see what these designs offer. I don't want to speak to which product does what and hopefully Mark will chime in and correct anything which I may have inaccurately described. HK

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by will on 12/26/23 at 20:20:32 Hey HK, It does sound like the Snubway is one of three, and the first to be introduced in the next few months. Not positive, but I think the Puron is actually configured the same way in terms of an AC male connection to a wall outlet or conditioner. Here are some links. sale-page: https://www.verafiaudiollc.com/products/best-audio-products/puron-plug-in-ac-line-conditioner-52299808 Extensive Blog writeup: https://verafiaudiollc.com/blog/puron-ac-power-conditioner-by-greg-voth And I hope this is OK with Mark... thinking it likely is, I decided it might help this thread get going if I copied over the post where he is introducing the Snubway from the Swiss Digital Fuse Box thread. Seemingly miraculously to me, I also was able to get the scope test pics to come over. I too look forward to more conversation, comparisons, and information! Will From verafi Re: Swiss Digital FUSE BOX Reply #227 "I keep reading this thread when alerted. The good supported back and forth is good for the audiophile soul I yesterday posted on Facebook my One Big Reveal for 2024. By February we should be shipping the first of three planned DC Subbing Products. This first one is called SnubWay - this is Viet's short description of this product and how important we think it is given the "pollution" of our AC Mains by SMPS and other invaders of noise. ### SnubWay^TM is an advanced parallel mains noise filter utilizing 4 discrete LRC filters tuned to absorb high frequency noise from switch mode power supplies (SMPS) and other sources in the 10kHz to 2MHz frequency range.  Today’s homes have power lines that are constantly polluted with dirty pulse switching noises from SMPS that are so ubiquitous in modern homes.  From our cell phone chargers to the power supplies for LED lamps and even our laptop computer supplies.  They all utilize high speed switching in the 100kHz to 1 MHz range, and they often leak noise back into the house AC mains.   The SnubWay mains noise filter has multiple LRC tuned resonant snubbers to absorb this unwanted noisy energy from SMPS’s over a broad frequency range. The LRC filters utilize nano-graphite pulse absorbers to provide a broader frequency absorption band and high quality polyethylene film capacitors combined with precision wound copper coil inductors. The discrete filters are computer tuned and designed for optimal performance.  The filters are arranged in parallel to absorb a broad range of sinusoidal and transient pulse noise sources.  The LRC filters are arranged on separate PCB assemblies stacked and connected in parallel using solid 14 gauge copper wire busses.  All of this is encased in a state of the art transparent acrylic housing and utilizes custom made premium Viborg plug housing with solid copper prongs and hardware.   To use SnubWay, simply plug it into a power outlet located as close to your equipment that you want to have filtering achieved. For instance, a power outlet strip. Insert SnubWay into the first outlet position and your audio equipment after SnubWay.  As its name implies, SnubWay provides multiple snubbers coming together in one spot - similar to a busy subway train station interchange where multiple train lines connect.  The difference here is that the different “noise trains” come to the SnubWay, but they don’t leave!  SnubWay is designed to reduce and absorb SMPS noise in the mains by up to xxdB (this can vary and is dependent on customer specific equipment and house wiring arrangement and condition). ### Posting a few pictures as well here. I don't want to interrupt the flow re SDFB - but I feel given the direction of this thread that interjecting this now is safe. Many thanks - and wishing all of you a beautiful and peaceful Holiday Season Many thanks Lynn and Mark Re: Swiss Digital FUSE BOX Reply #229 ### testing is very successful. Applying 100kHz, 200kHz, 400kHz sine wave to simulate SMPS noise on common mode (both L and N) is get almost perfect filtering. For 1.7Vpp input at 400kHz the output is about 4mVpp. That’s -52dB attenuation. Emphasize the scale on second Oscope is 10mV/Div and first one is 500mV/Div Please note this ###  "

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 12/26/23 at 20:52:00 SO Grateful to you fine folks I promise to come back and release more information. I have a Post Office run to make with Purons :) Further review link here https://www.tonepublications.com/distilled/the-puron-power-filter/ We won an award last year from Dave Clark at Positive Feedback My stinky web site link is here (new site is done - just working on linking Shopify Check Out) https://www.verafiaudiollc.com/ Puron data and more found there Back later - I promise Best Holiday Wishes Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 12/26/23 at 23:45:38 @Kamran Thank you very much for posting this Kamran Snubway by its nature TARGETS NOISE with these Tuned Filters. The difference in my system was PROFOUND I have 7 Switching Power Supplies in my Primary System and the difference adding SnubWay was not subtle at all. We wanted this badly - and we now have it. I think this is a must - particularly if your Flat Panel TV is ANYWHERE near your Hi Fi System. Puron targets Power Delivery – there ARE several benefits while Targeting Power Delivery (Noise being one of them) but SnubWay directly goes after Noise. If one has a lot of “polluters” like a Flat Panel TV or several SMPS based powered products I might try SnubWay first. Puron has been wildly successful with near to 1500 units sold in 13 months. There is nothing quite like Puron out there I’d like to have SnubWay at the Duplex if possible – Puron used by itself – Please try Plug Strip or Power Conditioner. I’ve used each product BOTH WAYS – and I’ve recommended IT at the Duplex first. Now that we have SnubWay – I’d follow the plan I laid out above. Great Questions @HockessinKid You are correct. Three products. SnubWay as you have seen Snub Station Zero – our take on a one box - do it all product including Soft Start and a very unique Protection System built in --- this box can support 10 amps total draw. Slated for under $600 dollars. SnubHub – Duplexes supporting multi voltage operation and some of the above mixed in – Low Cost Power Distributor --- under $250  - a good starting point IMHO @Will Thank you for copying all of that over. I sincerely appreciate it Noise in all forms have a significant negative effect on our systems. We went a long way with Deep Core at Core Power Tech (my original company dedicated to Power Solutions) to solve this… I sold that company to Walter Liederman some 4 years ago now. Still in Attack Mode on Noise - More to follow Thanks – Mark PS – I will attempt to post a Rendering of Snub Station Zero (SSZ) – current IRL Product in its final moments and off to CE

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by GroovySauce on 12/28/23 at 17:09:00 I've put my name on the list for when the SnubWay becomes available. I have 2 SMPS in my system. 1. is the power supply for my TT light. The other is the TT power supply. I'm looking forward to hearing what it does.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 01/05/24 at 19:46:13 Adding some further data now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c7mvHbdKLc Viet explains a good deal of SnubWay here I think those interested will find this pretty gosh darn cool It Works! Viet also gave me this short introduction. In your system - even better We tested ParaSnub (aka SnubWay) with a simulated SMPS noise source that has an 1kohm impedance. This is to simulate a typical SMPS transformer impedance between the high frequency generated voltage and the line (mains) that it is connected to.  We inject about 5Vpp 400kHz, 100kHz and 60kHz noise using a function generator and get between -30dB to -33dB reduction in noise (about 100mV to 150mVpp).   This is a significant amount of noise reduction and can really help clean up the SMPS noise contamination in our power outlet strip.  The level of reduction may vary, and will depend on your particular SMPS noise source impedance, your equipment, and your particular house wiring, etc. Cheers Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 01/05/24 at 22:08:46 Incredible! SOLD-where do I sign? :) Thx for sharing Mark!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by kulafu on 01/06/24 at 13:29:42 Me too! Bob

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 01/10/24 at 01:48:42 Good Evening All, Thought everyone might like to follow the SnubWay Progress - I asked Darko to produce a nice 3D View (via Step) that you can look at. You can explode it and turn it Enjoy https://autode.sk/3NYvdSZ Best wishes Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 01/10/24 at 04:43:51 Nice—thx for sharing Mark!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 01/10/24 at 15:55:33 @Kamran More than welcome - Additional data to follow Best wishes - Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 02/02/24 at 03:49:02 For those interested in more SnubWay news - please take a peek at this thread that Viet has posted https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/snubway-noise-defender.408583/?fbclid=IwAR1mhJPPZXrXGvhPKxXY9cUxxsqnD8JOdO-NuQNB60TainmtdqXqRMRgc0Q

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 02/02/24 at 15:20:52 More data - please pay particular attention to the 1kHz to say 5kHz region. SMPS Switching Frequencies at 400 to 600kHz yield a ton of noise in this area Still trying to learn how to post pictures properly So far - not much success  :)

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by GroovySauce on 02/02/24 at 15:41:38 I'm posting these photos for Mark.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by HockessinKid on 02/02/24 at 19:17:58 Wow, head on the Snubway shape reminds me of the Wankel rotary engine. Zoom, zoom. HK

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 02/03/24 at 02:29:23 Mark, can’t wait!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 02/03/24 at 03:34:40 Thanks Groovy Sauce I promise to learn how to do these picture posts ABSOLUTELY a spin from a Wankel Rotary Engine - good catch Thanks Kamran for our chat today - YOU lifted me up man... Best to all Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by SonicSeeker on 02/03/24 at 15:55:52 Cant wait.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 03/14/24 at 23:58:09 Good Evening All Highway to SnubWay is now open for Pre Orders with a very generous "thank you" Link here https://verafiaudiollc.com/products/snubway So very proud of this product - cannot wait to deliver. Many thanks Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 03/15/24 at 01:00:45 Thx Mark—just ordered!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 03/15/24 at 01:42:47 Thanks very much Kamran Pre orders are flowing in... Best wishes Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by HockessinKid on 03/15/24 at 10:10:56 Very excited about this noise killing product Mark. I put my pre-order in this morning. The champagne colored tube w/ gold end cap looks simply amazing too. Best wishes with the product launch. HK

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 03/15/24 at 14:40:36 I'm trying one out too. I just can't keep from futzing with things like this. There are a number of these sort of power supplies in the house . . . can't really hurt.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 03/15/24 at 17:58:09 Thanks to all of you... Best wishes Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 03/24/24 at 18:57:16 SnubWay Pre Orders are just ROCKING Sending thanks to all of you for the support Best always - Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by The other Lon on 03/24/24 at 22:13:16 Hi Mark, I keep failing to ask you in our email conversations, is the Snubway just for use within a strip outlet? I currently have a dedicated run on a 15A circuit to a 4 gang with equipment plugged in there and then 2 other sources plugged into a shared run. So not sure this would work in that configuration. I remember reading in the thread there may be another device coming that would work better with my current setup.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 03/24/24 at 23:05:28 @The other Lon (love that) I don't see why not. Plug it in wherever it's convenient Thanks Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Hearafter on 03/29/24 at 02:52:49 Thanks Mark for all of  your well priced great products taking us to audio OCD utopia. Placed my pre-order.   ;D

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 04/19/24 at 18:09:46 Thought I would add the latest information about shipping and casework of the Snubway to this thread. Update Re SnubWay Shipping Good Day All, SnubWay is almost ready to ship. We backslid a bit as we had intended to use the tooling we purchased for the beautiful shell/enclosure, but the Test Squeeze did not look as good as we had hoped. This is an extruded Aluminum part. We took the decision to mill solid billet instead (just like our initial samples) which looks and feels incredible. So that’s what we did. The first 100 units will have this solid milled shell which finishes beautifully and performs superbly. We are still two weeks away – but it will be well worth it. Questions – needs… here to help Thanks so much Mark verafiaudio@gmail.com www.verafiaudio.com

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 04/20/24 at 05:13:51 First review out! https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/hardware-reviews/vera-fi-audio-snubway/ Congrats Mark! Can’t wait!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 04/20/24 at 13:57:13 Thank you guys for your support This note went out - some today and some last night Appreciate all of the support here ++++++ SnubWay Snippet Sharing the news of the First Review https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/hardware-reviews/vera-fi-audio-snubway/ In A Word – WOW! So Many of you asking for Pre Order Pricing to be reinstated Here It Is – Just follow This Link https://verafiaudiollc.com/products/snubway New Photographs Are Up - New Insights Shared Delivery in 2 Weeks First Units Milled from Solid Billet Aluminum – Pretty Dang Cool We will keep this link alive for 10 days only – then back to $295 Please enjoy this very unique and worthwhile product. Many Thanks – Mark verafiaudio@gmail.com

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 04/20/24 at 15:50:32 GREAT review! Helpful too.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by johnnycopy on 04/21/24 at 17:10:51 Hi Mark, Hope you and Lynn are well. I have a question. From both the review and from your own early suggestions, It appears the greatest sonic effect comes when snubway is placed in slot 1 of a power bar. I have worked hard to not use power bars for my key equipment (mono coincident technologies 300b amps which each get their own Swiss fuse and go directly to separate ac wall connections of a common plate). These mono amps drive a set of Lii audio s10’s My sub system is at two levels, 1) my crown amp takes a longer thicker power supply ride to a different ac outlet on a different circuit and powers four subs 2) two rythmik amps plug into the aiyima ac strip I got from you, then to one Swiss fuse, then to outlet #1 of a shared ac wall plate. These two rythmik subs power four additional ob 15 inch drivers. Outlet #2 of that same wall plate feeds another Swiss fuse, then into a second aiyima, and one additional outlet bar that  together power my dac, a couple pre’s, a teddy pardo power supply for my streamer,  an add-pwr wizard, and my turntable. My 300b amps would be a very compelling target for the snubway, but when I initially tried the amps into one aiyima and one Swiss fuse I found I preferred each separated with their own ac receptacle and their own Swiss fuse. So it would appear a snubway is not in the cards to help the 300b amplification, tho the 300b wall plate is on the same circuit as the rest of my equipment (minus the crown sub amp) So I could target the snubway for  either my 2 rythmiks aiyima OR for my pre, dac, streamer., wizard, turntable power bars I also love tv an Oled that I would love to try the snubway on. I think I am talking myself into trying one Mark! I have a pre up for sale now. If it sells I will put in an order, MAYBE even if it doesn’t  :) Take very good care Mark and talk soon. John

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 04/21/24 at 18:16:34 @johnnycopy Thanks for your note - here are some brief replies as I'm on the move again today Slot 1 is fine - but with SnubWay I really believe he can be installed almost anywhere. I've tried 4 or 5 places and it "still" seem to work fine. It "finds" the Noise and kills it. I do hope you'll try one - I feels it's a very special product that yields results Parallel Filtering is the key. SnubWay works super well - while not changing all that's good about one's system. Sorry for the sales talk - but that's truly how I see it Here to help whenever you are ready Best wishes Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Geno on 05/01/24 at 18:34:00 I ordered one of these. I guess we can expect them to ship, just anyday now?

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 05/02/24 at 00:12:17 I inquired yesterday. They got slightly delayed due to a holiday in China but Mark anticipates them being shipped out by May 5th—we should have our tracking numbers soon!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 05/02/24 at 00:58:31 Thanks Kamran EXACTLY as noted Best wishes Mark PS - have a few Purons left over from this shipment. Christopher tells me I have 8 left if anyone is interested - Thanks www.verafiaudio.com

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Geno on 05/02/24 at 02:16:17 Awesome! Thanks Kamran and Mark!!!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by JBzen on 05/02/24 at 09:32:14 Thanks Mark for the update. I jumped on this band wagon. Other then cleaning up connections for power in my system, it should be the last power issue addressed. Hopefully it is anyways!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 05/07/24 at 21:46:36 The Snubway should begin shipping on Friday. . . and a surprise little something for early adopters!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Hearafter on 05/07/24 at 23:16:36 WooHoo!  Looking forward to the Snubway…seems like it might be time to buy another SDFB with that little something they are offering.  🤔

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by LiquidBlue on 05/07/24 at 23:17:06 Actually a very generous little something. People like Mark, Steve/Decware team and Don at Wathen are excellent examples of business owners who care about their customers and the customer experience more than the bottom line. It’s that after sales support that really matters.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Gilf on 05/07/24 at 23:32:11 [smiley=icqlite20.png]There’s that like button again. -^

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by HockessinKid on 05/07/24 at 23:52:30 👍👍👍 Thank you Mark. Can't wait to get my SnubWay & yet another great Vera-Fi Audio product. Very nice gesture on your part. HK

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 05/08/24 at 00:40:34 What an amazing gesture Mark. That is why you are loved—not because we care about $100 (in the grand scheme of things), but because you care. Looking forward!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 05/08/24 at 03:27:59 Exactly. The $100 coupon code is such a thoughtful but unnecessary gesture. So many small audio manufacturers take aeons to deliver on much more expensive items. BUT... $100 toward some of the upcoming Sluggos won't hurt...  :D

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Sean on 05/08/24 at 20:56:38 I'm interested to hear where you guys plan to use your Snubway(s). I have my SDFB in one outlet position on a dedicated line. I use a Furman PL Plus conditioner on the other outlet. Turntable, two different LED lights and a small fan go into the Furman. I'm leaning towards moving the Furman to a different circuit and plugging the Snubway into the bottom outlet. Or should I leave the Furman there and plug the Snubway into that? Or what about an outlet that is right next to the house fuse box?

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Geno on 05/08/24 at 21:05:40 I have one unused plug on the wall outlet that my power conditioner is plugged into. My plan is to plug it in there, right next to where the conditioner is plugged in. My power conditioner outlets are all in use. I hope this will work as intended.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 05/08/24 at 21:06:16 My system is all connected to a PS Audio P15 regenerator. I will connect the Snubway to the bottom plug of the outlet the P15 is connected to. Currently I have a Shunyata Research Defender connected to that plug in the outlet, I'll move that to the outlet nearest the system not in use.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by HockessinKid on 05/08/24 at 21:16:46 I believe Mark recommends the 1st position in a power strip, power conditioner, etc. particularly when equiment with switch mode power supplies (mostly digital equipment) and/or an parallel outlet with equipment plugged into. I am going to start with the Snubway in a parallel outlet which my amp is directly plugged into. I get some light residual noise at different times of the day. I'll try this for a week or so, then move it to my UberBUSS power conditioner. I've got all my source equipment which includes some of those problematic switching power supplies. HK

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 05/08/24 at 23:45:56 Thanks All for the wonderful support. You'd think that living in China for 11 years I might actually remember that May 1st begins... During the May Day holiday, which lasted from May 1 to 5, myriads of people across the country opted to embark on journeys near and far with their friends and family to enjoy their leisure time. I dropped the ball here which ran the delay out a bit... Least I can do to acknowledge my oops - and give everybody some extra cash for new Sluggos or??? Many thanks to all... Mark PS - my first time in China was in the late 70's I will never/ever forget that trip. People were so kind and giving to me. I ate noodles for days - each time with new families. I spoke English, Russian and Yiddish - not a work of Chinese... It was a TRIP

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 05/09/24 at 03:16:14 Hey All... Just sharing the first load of 100 custom milled Shells - this is from yesterday - Anodizing already in process. Loading for shipment tomorrow. Enjoy...

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 05/09/24 at 04:55:23 Thx for sharing the pic Mark! I’ve also been mulling over where to insert my two SnubWays. For starters, I’m going to plug one in to one of the available receptacles of my two dedicated Hifi Circuits and the other one in to my HT circuit. Then I might play with both in to the dedicated Hifi circuits, before experimenting with moving them downstream. In other words: Arrangement 1: 1) 1x SnubWay plugged in to Duplex outlet for Hifi Circuit 1 (and later to Hifi Circuit 2)—both home runs. 2) 1 x SnubWay plugged in to AQ Conditioner that my AVR, Apple TV, Modem/Router are connected to.  The AQ conditioner is connected to a typical daisy chained circuit for the basement Arrangement 2: 1) Hifi Circuit 1—Wall Duplex Outlet 2) Hifi Circuit 2–Wall Duplex Outlet Arrangement 3: 1) Hifi Circuit 1—MagikBuss 2) Hifi Circuit 2–Puritan

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 05/14/24 at 23:13:50 I was a bit confused about how the first position on conditioners like the Puritan or the MajikBuss/UberBuss would work considering all the outlets on such conditioners are supposed to be independent of each other. The latest set of instructions from Mark seem to clarify that in this case, the SnubWay should be plugged in to the outlet feeding that particular conditioner to positively impact all the gear plugged downstream.  This makes it super easy and clear as to where it will have the most benefit. Hoping to get my tracking number soon!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 05/14/24 at 23:57:18 I'm hoping to get it soon too. I'm going to place mine in the other plug in the Furutech wall outlet my SDFB to the P15 is plugged in--currently there is a Shunyata Defender there which should go into the outlet on the opposite wall, the other outlet nearest the system.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 05/15/24 at 22:07:16 Come to Papa - Welcome Home

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 05/16/24 at 08:36:36 Sweet!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 05/17/24 at 15:02:29 Good Morning Please look for e-mails from Damien re Tracking Numbers We can process about 25 to 30 orders per day. Many thanks for your patience Best wishes Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by HockessinKid on 05/21/24 at 12:02:50 Anyone get their Snubway shipping email notification yet? HK

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Geno on 05/21/24 at 12:36:21 Nope :-?

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 05/21/24 at 13:09:32 Not yet

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 05/21/24 at 13:23:28 Good Morning All Tracking numbers are being processed We have moved Fulfillment to Robinson, Il from Denton, TX and all of this has taken more time that both Damien and I expected I can assure all - Tracking Numbers are in process... about 25 to 30 per day Many thanks Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by kulafu on 05/24/24 at 23:46:51 Received my tracking numbers a couple of days ago.  No status of delivery date so far.’ Bob

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 05/25/24 at 00:04:19 Thanks for mentioning that Bob--I found my email message with tracking in my Spam folder and would have missed it otherwise. Won't be long now ("said the cat whose tail was caught in the lawn mower"--a phrase of my paternal grandfather's who was usually funnier than that.)

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Sean on 05/25/24 at 01:48:09 Same here. I reached out to add another to my order. The first 100 are accounted for, I’ll be in the queue for the next shipment.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by JBzen on 05/25/24 at 10:26:17 Also found a tracking number in the spam box. Thanks for that Lon.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 05/29/24 at 02:18:24 Hey All... Firstly - thanks to all for your incredible patience. We fought all kinds of crazy issues getting them here --- even down to Tornadic Weather in the MidWest. At last we will get all 100 into the field as quickly as we can. THANK YOU Team Vera-Fi

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 05/29/24 at 04:37:14 Lookin' good, Mark!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 05/29/24 at 14:34:35 Thanks to all... Did the Super Piggies arrive Best wishes Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 05/29/24 at 14:45:27 According to UPS, the Super Piggies will arrive today!!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Tony on 05/29/24 at 15:16:42 Hi Mark, My USPS message still is: "Latest Update We were notified by the shipper to expect your package for mailing. A delivery date will be provided when USPS receives the package." Since you said they are in the mail, is mine hung up somewhere? Thanks,

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 05/29/24 at 15:41:32 Mine has said that too, I think it's just that they either have not yet been picked up or delivered to USPS (a tracking number can be the first thing assigned before that happened) or that USPS has not yet scanned and updated the tracking (USPS can be pretty lax about that, I've had packages go from the state ours are in now to delivered without any additional scanning).

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by kulafu on 05/29/24 at 16:12:29 I inquired about the status and this is what Damien said: "We are extremely sorry for the delay, last minute iterations in the case milling and this weeks tornadic weather have caused us quite a bit of headaches. I have been told they will be on my doorstep finally this week, and if necessary I will be working through this weekend packing all of the orders to get them out. I will still send out emails to each and every customer letting them know that I have dropped their package off. "

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 05/29/24 at 18:27:44 I spoke to Damien as well – he doesn’t have it in his hands yet, but expects it by the end of this week.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Geno on 06/08/24 at 04:05:34 Quote: I can assure all - Tracking Numbers are in process... about 25 to 30 per day Hi Mark. This was from a few weeks ago. I’m trying to understand where we are in this process. I have not received a shipping notice yet. Thanks for clarification. Geno

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/08/24 at 09:40:49 Geno, I found my tracking number email in my Spam folder several weeks ago. If you haven't, take a look there.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by JBzen on 06/08/24 at 12:10:23 Just a heads up. The tracking number found in spam is the same provided with the original purchase. Best to hang tight until an actual shipment notice is sent while continuing to check spam mail for fear of missing a notice. This is really turning into a pain in the arse! :(

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Geno on 06/08/24 at 14:47:23 Good morning, Gents. Oh, I got an assigned tracking# immediately upon payment for the order. I’m just waiting for an email that the thing is actually on the way…

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/08/24 at 14:51:47 (That's what I am telling myself).

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Geno on 06/08/24 at 16:14:36 I’m trying, but the grasshopper is threatening to morph into a scorpion.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Hearafter on 06/08/24 at 16:21:10 After waiting over 2 years for my Torii Jr. this is nothing…besides I am too busy rolling tubes tubes and sluggos to be concerned.  Appreciate Mark and his team for all of their efforts getting the Snubway to market and shipped out to us.  Great products with exceptional service!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/08/24 at 23:33:16 I wanted to take a moment and personally thank Kamran. I believe he somehow knew and understood how frustrated I'd personally become over the late deliveries of SnubWay He telephoned me - we missed each other... but then we connected and I let go emotionally how unhappy I was with DHL and their utter BS with respect to Damien's address "being not deliverable for them. This was just nutty as we had delivery from them before to his address. The saga of travels then began - SnubWays went from Cincinnati to Lexington KY to Xhicago Il to a Post Office near Robinson IL but NOT Robinson IL to finally Robinson and at the very last moments of Saturday Delivery to Robinson and onward to his place. Like nother I've ever seen or experienced. And here they are... May shipments commence. My very sincere apologies for being as late as we are. Weather and DHL be damned - Kamran... I will NOT forget your call to me. Seriously Man... THANK YOU As I told you - the Grace and Kindness shown to this little company will not be forgotten Peace ENJOY One and All...

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 06/09/24 at 00:26:31 Wohoo! Mark, we both needed each other! I’m glad the Snubways finally showed up—now I don’t have to watch similarly shaped products on TV/Internet and pine longingly for my two units!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/10/24 at 22:52:54 Shipping has begun! Keep that original tracking number. Mine shows movement, I checked it after an email arrived from Damien.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/10/24 at 23:32:14 Houston We have Lift off They are moving - Damien can do about 25 to 30 per day Thanks to all of you... Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Jak Benardete on 06/10/24 at 23:43:34 Hi Mark, After reading the whole thread, I just ordered one. I know the first hundred is spoken for, when do you think we will get the second hundred in the US? Thanks for making what seems to be the perfect OCD product. Can't wait to try it.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 06/10/24 at 23:45:02 You might receive a different tracking number from a different carrier —at least I did. Excited!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Sean on 06/10/24 at 23:53:49 I did get a different tracking # and mine is going to spend the night 3 miles away at the post office. I ordered one from the original 100 and one from the next batch. Until I saw others get different tracking #’s I thought maybe the 2nd batch jumped past the first. Excited, my son and I are going to watch some Mazda 787b’s and clear rotary engine videos in preparation!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/10/24 at 23:57:04 @Jak I'm told 15 days... but because I'm so nervous - lets say 20. Continuing with Milled Shells from Billet - Super Yummy Finish. @Kamran - you are correct... some received new Trackers. ENJOY. We are all super proud of this one.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/11/24 at 00:02:01 @Sean Love it Viet did such a great job all the way around here Our family loves the Wankel Shell... My Dear Son In Law (Paul) was a Monster Rotary Racer on Mulholland Drive in LA. We lost Uncle P many years back now... but he is in my heart every day. Rotary Lives In Me Best - Mark Second Batch coming from Newbury Park CA - along with other new goodies not yet announced. My dear Pal Peter Madnick (co-founder with me of Audio Alchemy) and I are cooking up some cool stuff.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Jak Benardete on 06/11/24 at 00:03:28 @Mark Thank you for that. ' BTW, dont forget you are in the Decware forums, no need to be nervous about a few day wait, we are used to years ;)

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/11/24 at 02:56:23 Good news! Looking forward to checking mine out when it arrives!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/11/24 at 03:09:48 @Jak I sort of hurt myself giggling - thanks :) @bloodlemons SUPER PIGGY - How are my guys doing Cannot wait for all of you to hear your systems with SnubWay :)

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/11/24 at 05:11:52 Mark -- The SUPER PIGGIES are doing great! They really make routing all the various cables much, much less difficult, and they sound excellent. A very nice little improvement. Thanks again for getting these out to me the way you did. You're the man!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/11/24 at 20:43:10 @bloodlemons Thanks very much :)

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Sean on 06/11/24 at 21:01:28 Oooops...what I thought was the Snubway tracking # was actually some kitchen thing for my wife.  :'(  No worries, today just wasn't the day.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by HockessinKid on 06/11/24 at 22:46:28 Received my USPS tracking info indicating shipping of my SnubWay & likely 3rd SDFB too from Robinson, IL. Should be here by Friday☺️. HK

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/11/24 at 22:54:49 Progress SnubWay Shipping Love it

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Jak Benardete on 06/11/24 at 22:57:43 @Mark Excellent! I know I have to wait a bit longer but progress is always a good thing! BTW, what are those speakers?

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/12/24 at 05:46:04 Mark -- That speaker needs more tweeters.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/12/24 at 20:45:06 My beautiful Snubway arrived and is in place. I know there's settling in to come, but it's impressing already. I plugged it in in place of the Shunyata Research Defender I have in the other plug in the outlet that the first SDFB I bought is in, leading to the PC for the P15. That Defender I moved over to the outlet on the other wall. Seems a bit of clarity and tightness added at this point, a half hour or so in.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 06/13/24 at 01:06:17 So jealous! Thanks for sharing first impressions! My Snubways are due to arrive on Friday.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/13/24 at 18:39:06 Almost 24 hours on the Snubway now. I do notice a difference. I think it may be a bit less prominent a difference in my case because I actually have all those Defenders in action, one in each duplex outlet of my P15 for ZROCK2, SEWE300B, PS Audio SACD transport and DSD DAC Mk II . . . those have done a pretty good number on noise reduction in my system without making it clinical as some other noise reduction items had (iFi, Furutech). Added to the great "playing field" I had pre-Snubway is its effect, which gives me just a bit more dynamics (especially micro) and a bit more of a laid-back, behind the speakers a bit more presentation, which is truly to my liking. I suspect there will be a little more seasoning in of the Snubway and as a result a little more of these specific benefits. I'll be interested indeed to hear the impressions of other early adopters--I suspect if this is the only real noise suppressor of its sort in a system there will be more pronounced improvments.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by LiquidBlue on 06/13/24 at 20:28:01 Thanks for the first impressions, Lon. I just received my Snubway this morning. I cannot comment on its benefits yet. I’ve been playing some demo tracks without it to get a baseline first. Will put it into place at the first spot on my Shunyata distribution strip. I believe that’s what is recommended. I have one Venom Defender placed between my analog equipment and my streamer/DAC on that strip. I also recently got a new pair of speakers that are also burning in, so I think I’ll run the Snubway for a while to break in and once again compare with and without, since some of the current changes in presentation will be with the speakers seasoning.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/14/24 at 00:34:44 Got mine today. Solid, beautiful little unit! I don't know if I'm hearing much of an impact yet. That may be because I already have two Coherence Sorcer X4+ units running in my system. Each X4+ has four integrated outlets, and all of my gear is powered through those, which probably eliminates a great deal of potential noise. But I'm letting the Snubway burn in for a while and then I'll do some active listening a bit later to see if it's making any difference.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/14/24 at 08:58:42 36 hours plus now. The basic signature hasn't changed. What stands out most is a bit more smoothness (in a good way, a bit less of a digital nature that I hadn't realized was there til it wasn't) and a bit less forward presentation (just a bit more behind the speakers in soundstage, a welcome thing for me). I am not sure it will change more, and I'm glad I have it--also glad it allowed me to move that one Defender over to the other outlet near the system.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Tony on 06/14/24 at 14:09:16 What was that old phrase, "On a slow boat from China?" My Snubway continues what appears to be its troubled journey to CA. It got hung up in Omaha for a few days and is now hung up in Denver for a few more days. I expect it will make it to Berkeley sometime next week. Initial mild and positive reports of its impact on SQ make the wait easier, as it may take some time to settle into my system once received.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Hearafter on 06/14/24 at 15:11:58 My Snubway is on the same “Wagon Train” through the prairie to SF Bay area.   No rush here since I’m out of town for a few days anyway.  It’s nice to hear the initial feedback.  It should be interesting to see how they perform differently for us as many of our systems have such different  levels of power conditioning and power line infrastructure.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by TieBreak on 06/14/24 at 19:54:33 I received mine last night.  In my system the improvement is easily audible even though I use a power conditioner.  The sound is definitely cleaner and I hear more details emerge from the music.  These details were there before, but not as pronounced and clear.  They are easier to perceive.  The instruments are more distinct, less congested.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/14/24 at 20:20:54 Awesome results! I think mine is blooming a bit more today, so perhaps there is more improvement to come. I'm quite happy I ordered one.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Geno on 06/15/24 at 01:51:53 I’m due to get mine tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing what impact it might have.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/15/24 at 01:54:47 I was having an issue with low-volume squealing with my STR in the choke position. At first I thought it was a bad tube, but I swapped out a bunch of tubes and that didn't solve the issue. I just swapped some power cables around between my two Sorcer units and put the Snubway in the same circuit as the STR. No more squealing! Swapping between the two Sorcers may have been what solved the problem, but for now I'm going to chalk one up for the Snubway! I'll experiment with it all more soon, of course.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/15/24 at 03:27:03 Just wanted to take a short moment to send my very personal THANKS to many of you that have written me over the last few days regarding SnubWay's "in system" performance. Uplifting and pure FUN. More to come - lots more to share. Best wishes - Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/15/24 at 09:14:00 OK. I am beginning to comprehend the Snubway. When I first plugged it in a couple of days ago, I was busy with work, etc., and didn't immediately notice any "noise reduction" in the way that I was expecting to hear it, so I just left it plugged in and went about my business. Yesterday afternoon, I factored the Snubway into a noise problem I was having with the STR, which I now believe resolved due to other changes I made to the situation. At this moment, I doubt that the Snubway actually solved that problem (although that would have been cool). Tonight, I finally had time to play music and listen carefully. The Snubway had been powered on and, I suppose, burning in for a couple of days at that point. So I listened to a song, and it sounded really great. Then I unplugged the Snubway and played the same song again and that is when I finally figured out what the Snubway is all about. Of course, I played the same song over and over a dozen times with the Snubway in and out to make sure I was hearing what I thought I was hearing. My impressions remained consistent throughout the demo/experiment/whatever. I've been doing a lot of tweaks the last several months and my system sounds pretty good at this point, imo. The Snubway takes all of that and pushes it up another notch. Plucked notes sound "rounder," more defined, more "real." Vocals extend out in the soundstage just a little bit more, lending air and clarity to the mix. The 3-D imaging I already had going on is enhanced, just a little bit, but noticeable. It's one of those "you might not notice it until you turn it off" sort of things. But, once you pick up on it, you wouldn't want to turn it off. That would be silly. One thing that I'm still trying to decide if I am imagining or not is that I swear there is a very small increase in apparent volume when the Snubway is active. Maybe it's because the Snubway reduces noise in such a way that the music doesn't have to compete as much to shine through. Maybe I'm insane. But that was the general impression I kept getting tonight. Just a tiny, but noticeable, bump (in everything, really) when the Snubway is on. So, yeah. I'm glad I finally got a little time to dig the snub. I'm rapidly running out of power outlets for my system, but the Snubway clearly deserves a seat at the table. Good work, Mark (as usual)!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Tony on 06/15/24 at 14:37:49 Bloodlemons, Nice review.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/15/24 at 15:23:30 Thank you!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by LiquidBlue on 06/15/24 at 22:11:18 Quick impressions to dovetail onto Bloodlemons review. I did some more critical listening today, after having the Snubway in since Thursday. I used one track to compare, Cant Find My Way Home, the Nathan East version. Before sharing my impressions, I will say that the Snubway is a very well machined and quality built piece of gear. With the Snubway in the system, what I noticed was very subtle improvement to texture and decay to bass notes. Instruments were well separated and soundstage/imaging was great before, but with the Snubway each note itself seemed to have a little more more dimension to it, more roundness/body to the notes themselves to give it more realism. Notes on the triangle hang fully in space, with detail and realism. The rhythmic patterns across the toms have better texture to the notes. There was slight improvement to soundstage depth and a little more clarity to sounds farther back in the mix. The results from the Snubway in my system were quite subtle for me, but still noticeable, when listening critically. I expect it may refine a little more with time. At its price point, It’s a worthwhile addition in my book.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/16/24 at 16:34:20 Happy Father's Day Best wishes - Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/16/24 at 17:01:32 Happy Fathers Day, Mark! LiquidBlue -- It sounds like your Snubway experience is almost exactly like mine. Have you also noticed an subtle volume boost, or am I just imagining that benefit?

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 06/17/24 at 05:04:34 You’re not imagining it. The said, IMO, calling it a volume boost is not entirely accurate either.  That’s all I’m prepared to say at the moment. I don’t mean to by cryptic. If anything, the sample size of the last 3 sessions is screaming out loud (no pun intended) that Mark has done it again.  I just need a couple of more sessions to parse out what the heck is happening.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/17/24 at 07:52:35 In the meantime, you have my attention!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/17/24 at 10:28:51 I can't say that I perceive a "volume boost" as I am often enough playing with the gain between my ZBIT and the preamp volume section of my SEWE300B to have a 'baseline" to compare. But I do feel that there is a tiny bit more reduction of "noise" in my system due to the Snubway, and that makes the "black background" a tad inkier and elements seem to be a bit more present as a result, which can seem to present a bit more volume at a gain point. I think that the Snubway may address many of the same electrical noise interference that my Defenders do, but there seems to be one other phase of the noise that it scrubs that the Defenders were still allowing to be present (as desigined, this unit is to "snub" a particular power supply noise). So I don't perceive a big difference with the Snubway, but there is a subtle change with it within, and a before not quite digested--or even really identified--glare seems to have been eliminated. Quite an achievement!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by HockessinKid on 06/17/24 at 13:56:26 Wow, just Wow. Thoroughly enjoying my new SnubWay, now in my system for 3 days. A perfect compliment to my Pi Audio UBER Buss power conditioner which handles all my source equipment. I'm hearing in increased resolution and significant reduction in higher frequency noise. The SnubWay is positioned in the same receptacle as the power cord for the UBER Buss. I'm extremely pleased with this latest system addition especially in conjunction with the addition of an LPS, Netgear WiFi extender, and quality Ethernet cable to feed my Modwright modified Cambridge Audio CXN V2 streaming music via Qobuz. This comprises ~75% of my listening these days with the balance being vinyl. To my ears the increased resolution & elimination of noise gives the impression of the music sounding louder. I'm not sure if it's louder or not. Very happy with the results, thanks Mark & Damien

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/17/24 at 17:30:29 So... Who's going to be the first one to try two Snubways?

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/17/24 at 17:35:44 Ha! My money is on KAM. ;)

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Hearafter on 06/17/24 at 17:59:57 Looks like we have another plug joining the Duplex party!🤪 posted on Veriafi Audio FB page. image host Companion to SnubWay Meet Main Stream On our web site next week – delivery 1 May 2024 Pre Order at $235 – Retail Price $295 Main Stream Master Class – Dynamic, Parallel, AC Line Conditioner Main Stream is designed to improve the performance of your high-end audio or video system by reducing the amount of AC Mains-based interference travelling on the wires within your home.  This interference is created not only by other components in the system, but also appliances and other electrical equipment elsewhere in the house.  Sometimes even emanating from outside your home!   Line interference can cause many undesirable effects; hum, hiss, hash, or buzzing sounds from your speakers, a slight vibration that can be felt through the chassis of your components or on the motor of your turntable, and on video displays as random lines, moving bars or fuzzy images. Main Stream is called a “parallel” line conditioner because you do not plug your component INTO it, but rather plug it into the Mains socket closest to the component. In this way the Main Stream is never restricting the flow of current to your components, simply removing the interference it encounters on the line as the current flows by.  And there is no limit to how many MainStreams you can use; a large system may best be served by several. Main Stream uses a combination of reactive elements to create tuned filters designed to specifically reduce the levels of noise specifically known to interfere with your audio enjoyment.  Our topology excludes the use of any type of resonant transformer as a wave shaping device, and rather, only removes unwanted frequencies.   • Capable of reducing system background noise to vanishingly low levels • Reasonably priced • Milled extruded aluminum case • Designed for a long life of continuous service • A faint blue glow shows it is working • Laboratory tests prove the effectiveness of Main Stream via Fast Fourier Transform graphs

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/17/24 at 18:11:43 Wow! The only place I would have for this is in the outlet on the wall opposite the one that my system is plugged in to. Hmmm. Not sure that would be effective. But it looks like a very nice device.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/17/24 at 18:44:33 You guys are quick - beat me to the punch Main Stream is 1/2 of our overall solution to polluted AC Mians we are all facing SnubWay is our targeted solution to what we KNOW is harmful to our Mains via this Switch Mode Power Supply "leakage" and worse. Main Stream is our new AC Line Conditioner and plays a REAL ROLE in cleaning up our Power for our Audio and Video Systems They are very different products. Together - they are a very real solutiuon to what ails us. This is my Facebook post to questions posed Tom Gibbs Currently in the all-analog system -- I highly recommend it! 23h23 hours ago Reply Dave Clark How does this compare or relate to the Puron? 22h22 hours ago Reply Mark L. Schifter Dave Clark in that Puron is an AC Line Conditioner as well - but Main Stream was designed specifically to partner up with SnubWay. SnubWay is working in a frequency range between 400 and 600kHz where Switch Mode Power Supplies REALLY hurt our systems (both Audio and VIDEO) Main Stream focuses it's powers in and around 20kHz (where hum, hiss & hash live) and more directly taking aim at operating frequencies where other gear CREATES NOISE and known to pollute the Mains. Each are very specific and focused designes to act in a way that rewards the user with a COMPLETE SOLUTION to known AC Mains issues.. Puron is a widely focused weapon, while SnubWay and Main Stream team up to deliver a total knockout punch to AC Mains problem areas. 22h22 hours ago Reply Edited Dave Clark Mark L. Schifter another question then… if you have a couple SMPS units plugged into either a power strip that is plugged into the actual AC power conditioner or are plugged directly into the conditioner (in my case the ps audio regenerator) does it matter where the snubway is plugged in? The wall outlet that the AC conditioner is plugged into? The AC conditioner? The power strip? 21h21 hours ago Reply Mark L. Schifter Dave Clark this is a really good question My gut is maybe a bit counterintuitive here. I might try the wall outlet first. SnubWay is good at "sniffing"👍 I do not want to overstep my generous welcome here - Further information can bge found on our site Main Stream is work with Peter Madnick and SnubWay is work with Dr Viet Nguyen All of us working together - comparing notes and "targets"... Thanks - Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/17/24 at 18:55:58 PS - DELIVERY JULY 1st - Not May 1st Gramps loosing his grip :)

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/17/24 at 21:06:10 After the STR-104 arrives, I will have exactly ONE open outlet remaining on the Sorcers...

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by The other Lon on 06/17/24 at 23:57:57 Unboxed and plugged in the Snubway today. Main Stream ordered. Already love the Snubway addition after just 5 hours of letting it work that I am sure the Main Stream will be a great compliment. Well done Mark!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Hearafter on 06/18/24 at 00:41:16 Also ordered a Mainstream using the $100 Snubway credit Mark so generously gave us.  $140 shipped a screaming deal.  Thanks Mark!  I have been extremely happy with every product I have bought from Mark.  Purons, Ground Zeros, LSA Warp 1, SDFB w/sluggos and Piggy, Vanguard Caldera Sub, Snubway and soon the Mainstream.  Keep ‘em coming Mark :D

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/18/24 at 00:59:48 I also ordered a Mainstream today. The discount made it hard to resist. I can experiment with its placement--I think it may sound really good in the outlet above that for my SEWE300B in the back of the P15, or in the outlet on the other side of the room from the system which is on the same breaker. All the Defenders I have and the P15 have convinced me that treating power is very important.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/18/24 at 02:02:32 Mainstream ordered! Thanks guys for reminding me about the discount code!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/18/24 at 02:18:35 Thanks to all of you... Many to call out - but for now... just our sincere thanks TWO MOST IMPORTANT AREAS OF INTEREST POWER ROOM Many thanks - Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 06/18/24 at 03:43:11 Yeah, Lon wins the bet. I do have two Snubways (plugged in to each of my dedicated Hifi circuits) and the impact is not subtle. Nope—not in the least bit. More later and yeah—-I am completely ignoring the living daylights out of Mainstream for now unless Mark forces my hand.  I don’t want to cheat during my honeymoon period with the Snubways.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by LiquidBlue on 06/18/24 at 04:38:34 Dang. That’s right, discount code. Ordered… Mark, you need to slow your roll outs, so I can slow my roll.   ;D

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/18/24 at 07:07:27 LiquidBlue -- It's almost impossible not to order one of Mark's new creations when (with the code) it's only $135. In this hobby, that's like the change you find in the couch. Not to mention that Mark's pretty much batting a thousand lately... It's hard not to want to be an early adopter...

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Hearafter on 06/18/24 at 07:45:04 Snubway made an appearance today.  After most of the day plugged in, I fired up the system and for me the Snubway is not subtle.  The clarity, instrument separation, details all improve.  The music seems to surround me more.  It seems that I don’t need to turn up the volume as much to gain ideal listening preference now.  Have to give it more time but initial impressions are 👍👍

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by LiquidBlue on 06/18/24 at 09:12:19 bloodlemons, I get you. I was an early adopter of a couple SDFB's, the Snubway and soon to be Main Stream. All have been worthwhile upgrades! Mark and his team are bringing forth some great products at great prices! In the last week I've had several purchases made over the past few months, show up all at once. Interesting things happening here, that I need some time to sort out and make sense of! Listening to Mark Lanegan, Whiskey for the Holy Ghost, before shutting down for the night and it's blowing my mind.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Tony on 06/18/24 at 14:00:47 Good morning, all; I want to add my name to the growing list of Vera-Fi supporters. I was unsure how much more positive change/improvement I might hear in my system after already having added the Puron, SDFB, and Graphene Sluggo. However, the Snubway did more than just hold its own; it made another significant contribution. I am still deciding on Main Stream; I just heard of it. With this very successful Verafi track record, however, it seems like a no-brainer to add.  Thanks Mark!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Sean on 06/18/24 at 16:05:27 I’ve already got a SDFB and have two Snubways on the way. I haven’t got a discount code, where did that come from? I’d definitely grab a Mainstream if I had the code. Could someone PM me, pretty please?

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/18/24 at 16:12:35 Sean, The 100 dollar discount was meant for those who pre-ordered the SnubWay and waited through a few delays before shipment. Here's part of an email Mark sent regarding the code: I’ve asked Damien to issue along with this note a $100 dollar coupon to all of you that pre-ordered and waited. We did lose one yesterday – but I’m determined to deliver to all 91 of you a product that works INCREDIBLY WELL and meaningful from Design though Execution. We are known as a company that truly delivers the goods and in that, we have to take our medicine for being late. Enjoy this $100 dollars on anything we sell. Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Sean on 06/18/24 at 18:12:23 Thanks Lon! Mark reached out via PM. I'm still patiently waiting for Snubway to land here...some of you guys are making my anticipation level creep in on my patience level with the great reviews.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 06/19/24 at 05:59:08 Engulfed Yup, that’s it.   God, how that title eluded me for the past four days is anyone’s guess (those who know my title fetish, are perhaps chuckling at this point). Ever since watching the R&D video of the SnubWay noise reduction testing a couple months ago, I was convinced Mark had  just scaled another audio peak.  I decided to go all in and ordered two units for each of my dedicated Hi-Fi Circuits.  The price of entry was compelling and allowed the luxury of going big.   I was pleasantly surprised by the packaging—at first I thought Mark had over secured it but then it dawned on me that he probably didn’t want to chance the sensitive snubbers to any rough handling by the carriers prior to reaching their respective final destinations. And once I held the Snubway in my hands, I couldn’t help but admire Mark’s Production Values!  The Snubway is so exquisitely crafted that I would be equally happy to display it as a decorative item.  It’s a damn shame having to plug it in at the back of the rack, hidden from plain sight, for it deserves being center stage—to be seen—in addition to being heard. Since both of my conditioners (Puritan PSM 156 for source gear and PI Audio’s MajikBuss for Sarah) have independent isolated outlets, I didn’t want to curtail the impact of the Snubways and decided to plug them in the available receptacle in each of my duplex Shunyata outlets so it would feed both conditioners (and the gear plugged in to them) equally. I plugged in both SnubWays in the afternoon as soon as they were delivered and used up a lot of self-control to not have a go at a listening session until 9 hrs later.  Mark suggests waiting at least 10 hrs before critically listening so I lost that fight an hour early as I had to go to bed and knew that I wouldn’t be able to sleep peacefully, without a quick drive-by.  I listened for an hour not expecting much but was still able to pick out some positive differences.  I went to bed, excited for I was certain that after another 24 hrs, I’d be in business. Now, after spending 5 excellent sessions, I’m ready to share my thoughts. Volume There was a mention of a volume boost in the thread, to which I both agreed and disagreed with.  I continue to find this subject more complex and fascinating. Yes, I am detecting more volume at my typical preamp volume dial/setting, so I had to turn it down a little to compensate.  But, it’s not because there is any sort of gain provided by the dual Snubways—it’s actually the complete opposite.  By strangling the SMPS noise in the line, the Snubways are decreasing the noise-floor to astonishingly inkier blacks.  With this reduction in the floor, a couple of interesting things are happening: While I need less gain to reach my desired 75-85 db level, I was actually taken aback by how satisfying music sounded, 5 to 10 (and in some cases 15) db below my desired level.  At the same time, I’m finding the higher frequencies much better controlled even at a higher gain setting on the passive pre.  On one track, I was about to turn up the volume because I was conditioned to expect the female vocalist to be a tad shouty, only to realize that the decibel meter was reading at 80 db!  In other words, even at a higher gain setting, the Snubways are making the listening experience equally enticing and making sure the higher frequencies are not making out like a bandit. Speaking of volume—-there is a profound difference in blackness on certain dynamic tracks, when it goes from loud to soft.  Not only is it more blacker (which is to be expected given the reduction in noise), but also the speed and control with which its going dark is astonishing.  I know this might be hard to comprehend but it’s turning from loud to soft (or vice versa) on a dime.  This very noticeable shift in speed is captivating. The review could just end here folks.  I’d be extremely happy with these results, but the positive changes in the noise-floor and how it impacted listening at various volume levels was: Just the tip of the iceberg… Soundstage, Space, and Immersion The stage, nah the canvass, is bigger in all dimensions.  There was another mention in this thread about it sounding open and not congested.  Similar to the volume boost comment, I agree and disagree at the same time.  To my ears and in my rig, the scale of the soundstage has opened up significantly.  Think smaller painting vs. a painting 5x its size.  That, by definition, will make everything appear less congested.  Height, width, and depth are all positively impacted.  Notes are noticeably wider, taller (as if I had a large tower speaker), and have decidedly more depth to them (even with the voicing switch on Sarah facing forward). Closely related to the above is space and or spatial cues.  The Phoenix Net (PNET) in my system was already doing a great job of rendering great spatial cues, which transport certain tracks to just another level/dimension.  I think the reduction in SMPS noise is allowing the PNET to shine even more.  It’s really challenging to describe this phenomenon. You know it when you hear it. The writing was on the wall during the first listening session.  Yello’s track— ‘Rush for Joe’, ends with a jet flying overhead from left to right.  I often use this to gauge soundstage and imaging.  When dialed-in correctly, you should hear the jet travel right over your head as if you had Dolby Atmos speakers on the ceiling (which I do, but I digress).  I was sitting on my couch the first night, not opting to worry about critically listening from the sweet spot, a couple of feet in front.  I was expecting to hear the jet fly by in front of me from this particular spot. Thank God, I wasn’t consuming a beverage at the time since the jet not only flew by right on top of my head (as opposed to a couple of feet in front), but also did with a sense of gusto and realism that left me speechless. Oh and it didn’t end there.  Once it passed on the right, I was expecting the track to stop, but there was an extended decay of ‘let’s just call it a jets after stream’.  I had never heard that before.   Jaw dropped, I shut off the system and went to bed determined to explore this new frontier over the next couple of days.  The sound just took off from there.  Night after night, track after track, I’ve never experienced this level of holography.  Here’s what I mentioned to GS: ‘The rig is sounding 2x more holographic than it was ever before—the ease with which the notes are dancing all around me and behind me—-was not expecting that.’ The Snubways appear to have unlocked another level of immersion that I didn’t think possible.  I’m still trying to wrap my head around it (no pun intended).  It’s akin to being engulfed in a 3D cocoon of sound.   Mark, congrats—you’ve done it again and I have no doubt, that you’ll keep doing it. End Notes: Two things I’m not convinced about. Bass:  I am not entirely certain bass has been impacted as much.  The Cryotone 300Bs and better isolation feet on my Holo DAC had made a profound impact on the lower octaves. Maybe, the Snubways are just making it a tad more noticeable. Resolution: I’m also unsure whether resolution has been impacted, though I’ll take Roger’s word for it.  He has far more experience and better cabling to discern that particular impact.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/19/24 at 06:12:03 I'll leave the critical musings to Kamran for the moment, but: I played "Girl From Ipanema" (recent Impex 45 rpm pressing) for my girlfriend tonight before dinner and, without any prompting, she said "Wait, this sounds different. It's like I feel it now." I've been doing a lot of little tweaks lately, but all I can say is that she's never said that before. Usually when I ask her what she thinks of the sound she says "It's good. I like that song." lol

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by JBzen on 06/19/24 at 09:39:47 Quote: And once I held the Snubway in my hands, I couldn’t help but admire Mark’s Production Values!  The Snubway is so exquisitely crafted that I would be equally happy to display it as a decorative item.  It’s a damn shame having to plug it in at the back of the rack, hidden from plain sight, for it deserves being center stage—to be seen—in addition to being heard. Totally agree. That is as far I got before returning to the package. Just cannot find time and/or desire to set in the Chariot for a session!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/19/24 at 11:08:04 The SnubWay appears to be a miracle component! It's inclusion in my system did not perform all these miracles but I know it's because of the multiple Defenders I've had in the system since last year. Yesterday I removed those, and that isolated the SnubWay's work. Yes, it helped the system to sound great BUT I put the Defenders back in. They were contributing a lot to my overall system performance, a futher richness. Interesting to see what including one of the Mainstreams will do!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/19/24 at 15:14:21 Good Morning Thanks to all of you guys - WOW! @Kamran Tour de Force review comments - thank you ever so much @Lon Read your last post with great interest and excitement Sharing (Main Stream) is Caring - hang on to your hat :) So much to say to all of you but time is super short this morning Many thanks as always Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/19/24 at 15:42:55 I finally noticed that the Graphene Sluggos are up on the Verafi site. The Positive Feedback article on the same says that If you're a current SDFB owner and would like to upgrade to the Graphene option, you'll be able to order one for 20 percent off the listed prices. Does anyone here know how to access that discount through the Verafi order form?

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Tony on 06/19/24 at 15:52:40 There may be more than one way to place the order, but when I purchased the Graphene Sluggo I went through Damien Norwick,  sales.verafiaudio@gmail.com

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by johnnycopy on 06/19/24 at 17:14:32 Mark you mention Peter Madnick in your post regarding design of the Main Stream. Is this the Peter that was formerly with Denneson, Audio Alchemy, and the Constellation Audio head engineer? If so this is an exceptional mind/background that is collaborating on your new product, but actually I would expect nothing less given your own background, contacts, and the impacts you have made in Audio along your journey. John

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/19/24 at 17:15:07 Well, that makes sense. Thanks! I'm not sure how many Graphene Sluggos to order. Do any of you have a preferred location in your system for the graphene? I'm currently running Super-Duper Sluggos in all of my components.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Hearafter on 06/19/24 at 17:49:39 Kamran- Thanks for such a thorough review on the Snubway!  My headline on the Snubway is “Ditto”. I am experiencing many of the the same results and my much abbreviated highlights on the Snubway are: Quiet blacker background, clearer details and separation of instruments, hearing subtle background instruments I have not heard prior, more 3D and holographic- music comes out into the room and seems to surround me more, with less noise I play at a lower volume to reach my preferred listening level at 60-70db.  I certainly did not expect this!  Looking forward to Main Stream🤪

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/19/24 at 17:51:32 I've moved Sluggos around (including silver hollow ones not marketed by Verafi) and have settled on these in these locations: Graphene in my PS Audio P15 regenerator High Purity Copper in my PS Audio DirectStream DAC Mk II Super Duper in my Decware SEWE300B

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/19/24 at 17:56:32 Lon -- Interesting. OK, based on your experience I will start with one graphene in each of my Sorcers and maybe a third to swap into the CSP3 or ZP3 and see how that goes. I have copper, Super, and Super-Duper to mix and match with after that. It's tempting to put them into everything but that definitely starts to get expensive...

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by GroovySauce on 06/19/24 at 21:39:50 I also have two SnubWays. I've had a lot going on so listening time has been extremely limited. I'm also burning in new tubes so lots of variables right now. Kamran, great write up as usual! I'm not sure if it's the KT170s or a combo of KT170s and the Snubways. I've never heard my or any other system sound so clean before. Often when things get "clean" they loose some of the soul and life of the music. I'm happy to report that the soul and life are still in the music. The KT170s for sure blow the sound stage open way more than the KT77s I've been running. Based on others reports I'm sure it's a combo of the new tubes and the SnubWays. The only grip I have at the moment is the aluminum case is large and makes fitting all the plugs and plugins difficult. The case is really nice and if it was twice the price I would still be very impressed. Between very little listening time and new tubes, I don't have a comment about perceived volume with and without the SnubWays. Placed an order for the Main Stream. I'm still waiting for the Air Core Sluggos to become available to replace the copper Sluggos I'm using in most of my components.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Geno on 06/20/24 at 20:11:21 First, my apologies for rude remarks made during the wait for delivery - patience is not my strongpoint. I received my Snubway, Saturday, and it has been plugged in for four full days. I have approx. 8 hours of listening time with it. It is a keeper! It has really brought my sound, more in to focus. Took off a rough edge, that I did not even know was there. Thank you, and congratulations, Mark, on an outstanding product! Best, Geno

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/21/24 at 01:02:28 Good Evening @ everyone - many thanks for the incredible support - sincerely appreciated @ Geno No worries on my end at all. WE WERE LATE. All excuses be damned (however true) --- late is LATE The product is special - and making friends everywhere that I can see. My pleasure to accept your thanks Geno. On being late - I open myself up to some of you re new products and some cool fun coming soon. There are times when the hardware and software guys just can't get things done - promised, or otherwise. FUSE BOX MAX is right there. The Compiler Code we had turned out to be "bad" from our vendor. We had delivery problems getting the Micro we wanted and the Super-Groovy  Hall Effect Sensor (incredibly important)... and THEN the promised Relay was over 6 weeks late - even though promised. I have learned again how much it can hurt being in the lead rig. Shit happens. and whether it's a CD Transport Mechanism (Audio Alchemy) or film from Canada to make our midranges (back in my Genesis Days)... eventually it all gets solved and VIOLA! The Product makes it's debut. Hang in there with me. Incredible days are just around the corner. The one fellow that told me he's done with me... OK, I get it. I want FUSE BOX MAX even more than you... Best wishes to you sir. But... I WILL sleep tonight.

Title: Re: Snubway by Veraf Post by highstream on 06/21/24 at 04:54:10 I was unaware of this thread and posted my 100 hours, now 130 hours, impressions of the SnubWay on WBF. I'm reposting those here edited. First, though, I want to say that I use a Puron from Vera-Fi and have appreciated Mark's ear and help along the way (I look forward to tying his SDFB soon). I also want to emphasize that not only is every system different,* and thus so is the effect of a device like this, but also that I've learned from repeated experience to be patient, i.e., not to make final judgments about anything being seriously considered until at least 300 hours of burn in (no matter what a developer says about the time needed). With that intro, here's what I've found so far (and I did email Mark before posting on WBF): - Size/Shape: The SnubWay cannot be used in the top outlet of a vertical U.S. pair because its size/shape prevents audiophile size connectors and most similar sized adapters from being plugged in fully underneath it. That includes standard U.S. wall outlets and my Wyred power conditioner and PS Audio Regenerator (P15). I suspect for most audiophiles power inlets are prized and not given up easily. - Sound: No matter where I plug it in -- wall outlet or regenerator -- the SnubWay's effect is to add dynamic energy and volume (in both senses), greater smoothness, and seemingly a greater sense of body, expressed in what seems like increased bass energy, if not a little more forward sound. Impressive at first listen. However, that energy comes at a price: it seems to overrun or overwhelm the sense of clarity that exists without it. To take a revealing example, while renowned classical pianist Evgeny Kissen's playing is not typically known for its subtlety, in the case of Glinka's Lark his purity of tone and delicacy are a thing of beauty. With the SnubWay, however, they are so far almost completely lost (Mussorgsky - Pictures at an Exhibition, RCA Victor, 2002). The difference is so substantial that for the remainder of the 300 hours I have moved the SnubWay to a wall outlet elsewhere. I'll bring it back and follow up on my evaluation at that time. * My system is listed in my WBF signature: https://www.whatsbestforum.com/members/highstream.4861/#about

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/21/24 at 13:49:20 Good Morning @highstream Just replied to your email - my apologies for the tardy reply. I shared my own thoughts and I surely do appreciate yours. I have known you to be an astute Listener. Hoping you will fall in love upstream. Our Mechnical Design was rendered after Dr Viet's work with the Pedestal 3 Blade used and Darko's interpretation. We do know we take up valuable space. We will have a nice solution for this in Q-4/2024 - but for now we are a bit "piggy". Anxious to hear more from you in the coming weeks. " Best wishes - Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by ArtMan on 06/21/24 at 18:07:50 Mark, I was reversing one of my Graphene sluggos in my amp after playing the system for a while. The sluggo was surprisingly warm to the touch, would that be considered normal for a sluggo?

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/21/24 at 18:13:41 @ArtMan Yes - this is a normal state of affairs just as a "normal fuse" would experience same (hence, just part of the problem(s)) No worries Graphene does conduct like mad :) Best wishes Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by JBzen on 06/26/24 at 12:15:32 Made it home a couple days ago and plugged the Snubway into the Charoit TV circuit. Going to give it a try there first because of current priorities. It might be easier to see the improvement now rather than trying to listen for it. Seems like the Graphene is causing some resistance to heat up in use. Could it be because of the bonding agent?

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/28/24 at 04:50:55 I feel like Mark's not working hard enough lately, so I have to ask... What's going on with Snub Station Zero. Is that going to be essentially a small power strip with the Snubway circuit built-in? Forgive me if I missed this info prior.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Hearafter on 06/28/24 at 04:59:29 Bloodlemons: Your question has been answered… this is on Verdi-Audio facebook page today.  Not Snubway but a power strip DC Blocker similar to his Core Ground Zero or Deep Core is my understanding. “New product on the horizon! Say hello to Snub Hub, a mains power port featuring universal plug outlets, EMI / RFI filtration, and an in house designed DC blocker circuit. DC voltage on our AC mains is becoming a more prevalent issue for many reasons including the increased usage of LED lighting throughout the home. As more components feature toroidal transformers for the benefits they provide, they also have a weakness of being very sensitive to this DC voltage on the primary windings. This can cause hum from your transformer that can impede your listening session by creating resonance, or in bad enough cases, increased noise floor from power supply noise. The universal outlets will accept virtually any plug for enjoyment around the world, at any voltage. The top two US style outlets are wired to be the first in the circuit for further noise suppression through usage of parallel line filters such as Snub Way or Main Stream.   SnubHub is our simple and elegant solution to an ever growing problem, affordably priced at $249.99. More news to come, on the website next week.”

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/28/24 at 07:31:21 Is it weird to be a power-supply-tech-company fanboy? It's weird, right? At this point, I think I'm just buying Vera-Fi stuff out of curiosity. I've never done that with, say, General Electric. That being said, no one from GE has ever called me at home to make sure their products are specifically optimized for my needs. Maybe that's why the little soap thing in my GE dishwasher doesn't always open when it's supposed to.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by JBzen on 06/28/24 at 12:39:35 After 3 days of a new energized Snubway plugged into the TV circuit of the Charoit, there is no noticable change in picture quality. To be fair I was face up to the screen and the TV circuit has no switching power supplies on it except for the TV itself. I was kind of rushed too! So, will try listening next on the audio circuit which has a few switching PSs' in the components.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Hearafter on 06/28/24 at 15:38:14 Jbzen- my experience has been that the Puron plugs improved picture quality on my TV’s.  With the Snubway I did not see an improvement in picture quality but it did improve the audio quite noticably.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 06/29/24 at 01:51:38 Hereafter—thx for the feedback on the review.  We are definitely experiencing the same sonic benefits. John—interested in the changes to the Chariot once you plug the Snubway in to your audio chain.  I’m going to try and test it on my TV soon. It’s been what approx. 10 days since my initial feedback.  The Snubways are still kicking ass and I have noticed a profound change (for the better) in the bass response.  Initially, I wasn’t convinced that the Snubways were doing anything in this dept. but after spending more time listening, it’s unmistakeable.  Depth of stage seems better—more defined and borrowing a term from James….even more tactile.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/29/24 at 04:02:35 I did a little Snubway test listening to Kraftwerk last night and the effect is undeniable. Just bigger and more enveloping. Hard to believe it was $235 or whatever it was initially. I paid a LOT more for my Sorcers, which provide a similar benefit.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Geno on 06/29/24 at 14:45:57 Hey Mark, Evidently, I deleted my discount code, sent out with the first round of Snubways. Can you PM that to me? All of this positive feedback on the SDFB has finally got the best of me, and I have to have one. Really, the performance of the Snubway in my setup, is what has made the decision for me ;-) Thanks, Geno

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/29/24 at 15:17:24 Geno, sending you a helpful PM

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Geno on 06/29/24 at 16:15:29 Got it. Thanks! [smiley=icqlite20.png]

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 06/30/24 at 18:43:17 Thanks Geno Shipping early week and welcome If you need the code - I can send it - Looks like Lon has you covered Best Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/30/24 at 22:19:36 How long did it take for those of you with Graphene Sluggos to feel them settle in? Asking for a friend, lol.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by highstream on 06/30/24 at 22:40:59 I don’t know the answer to your question, as I only just started to burn in a couple of brass. I always assume 300 hours until proven otherwise. On the subject of graphene, Mark says the graphene sluggo process is, “HP Copper as the substrate and Vacuum Deposited Graphene.” In addition, NPS-Q45T contact enhancer contains graphene.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/30/24 at 23:34:35 Highstream - Thank you! I also just realized that I posed this in the wrong thread. Mea culpa!

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 06/30/24 at 23:39:35 I would wager that 300 hours mark is probably an appropriate length. Both the Graphene and Super Duper (rhodium) have exhibited subtle changes during that length of time or so.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 06/30/24 at 23:53:36 Thank you, Lon. I reposted my query in the SDFB thread to avoid cross-contamination of the product threads.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by highstream on 07/01/24 at 17:01:59 One can apply a graphene containing liquid to a SnubWay, but as pointed out, the discussion about graphene here came up by mistake relative to the SDFB discussion, which has its own thread. The OP on that topic and my reply, were then posted there. For a more extended discussion, maybe it needs its own thread.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by will on 07/01/24 at 17:20:23 Thanks, clicked the wrong tab to reply to....I thought I was on the SDFB thread... Jeez. Copied and deleted my post here and posted it on the SDFB thread.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 07/02/24 at 23:36:03 I'm kind of itchy to add another Snubway to my system, but I'm thinking maybe I should wait for the next product on the horizon. Choices, choices...

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by highstream on 07/07/24 at 18:59:39 Now about 550 hours in… The Snubway has settled down substantially, yet in my system exhibits the same characteristics I wrote about in post 33: Increased energy, seemingly louder volume, perhaps a little smoother, but at a price. The increased energy presents a denser sound that covers up the spaces between notes. It also strikes me as a liitle pitch elevated (“bright”) in treble piano notes relative to not using it. So mine will be going back (which with the coupon will about cover the cost of one SDFB). That decided, I wish that it were possible to hear it in systems where it is doing good. I suspect that my Groundmaster City + grounding cables are achieving some of the same effects the Snubway produces. Or, perhaps, all the Nordost plug-in filters, along with a Puron, are contributing to my result.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Hearafter on 07/07/24 at 19:15:22 Highstream- So let me understand…you are returning the Snubway that came with a $100 coupon for delayed shipping then using that coupon to buy a SDFB post return to save $100?

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 07/07/24 at 19:47:14 Getting ready to greet some guests - so only a short reply for now This will be the very first SnubWay return. If one is not using Flat Panel TV's or Switch Mode Power Supplies, I can imagine it not lending it's best characteristics to one's Hi Fi. Past that - I have no explanation. Best wishes - Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by highstream on 07/07/24 at 20:20:08 I’ve been awarded a large number of firsts in my life, most subsequently substantiated. Unlike those, in this case I make no claim to generalization. That’s the nature of audio. I do have an LED TV, and cable, which means one switch mode power supply on the electrical circuit but not on the regenerator that the audio system is hooked into.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 07/07/24 at 21:12:52 Highstream. -- I would send you an audio clip of my system with and without the Snubway, but there's no way it would capture the subtle magic of the device. But, you know, it's always YMMV in this hobby. I was concerned that the Snubway would be ineffective in my system due to already running two Sorcers, but that is not the case. In fact, I have it plugged into one of the Sorcers (no room at the inn on my duplex, predictably). I am still very close to ordering another one for the second Sorcer, but am waiting until someone tells me the next Snubber device doesn't provide similar (or better) results...

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 07/08/24 at 01:22:29 Interesting observations highstream.   I also have over 550 hrs on my dual Snubways and they aren’t going anywhere (unless Mark comes up with something better).   After more settling in time post my initial observations, I too sensed an increase in bass energy in the rig, but not at the expense of masking any detail.  My OB’s are hitting deeper than ever before, yet still tightly controlled and with even more texture within the lower octaves. I’ve noticed that I’ve begun to consistently enjoy music at 10 db below my desired range of 75-85 db post insertion of the Snubways.  Heck, one night I was so tired to even pick up the remote, that I just sat down and listened to music 20 db below my range and was amazed that I enjoyed that session as well. I do wonder though (as you mentioned), that whether there can be too much of a good thing, with the Ground Master City already doing it’s thing.  That’s been on my radar as a logical addition to the Puritan PSM 156, but this leaves me with some hesitancy in going that route. Hopefully, Mark can find another good home for your used Snubway.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by highstream on 07/08/24 at 01:47:06 @Kamran I'm reminded of someone who tried the City and found it didn't make any difference in his system. What struck him is that he already had what the City offered. There are often different ways to accomplish similar goals. That may be at play with the SnubWay. I don't know if you follow Alpha Audio (Netherlands), but they recently did a comparison of power supplies including the PSM156. Grounding is something that doesn't get discussed or dealt with nearly as often as other facets of systems. The three-banana grounding cord Dave of ZenWave built me for the three tube adapters on my Lampi dac did wonders to deal with hum and improve sound. And cecilbern on WBF encouraged me to give the grounding plug-in method a try, focusing on signal grounding (vs. chassis grounding). It's effects, even with cheap Amazon cables, were immediately apparent. Technically, I have no idea if grounding and what the Snubway does are at all similar. That was speculation based on how relatively little the latter affected my system's sound, beyond what I've mentioned, after I re-plugged in one of the two ground cords that had come loose from the City.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by verafi on 07/10/24 at 16:14:25 Good Morning All... After some healthy back and forth this will be my last post on these forums I'm a guest here - and we are absorbing way too much bandwidth and time in a place that's not our own. I respect and fully endorse this. There are two ways to contact me easily my e-mail is verafiaudio@gmail.com my google voice for calls or text messages is 818.584.6870 Thanks to Steve for extending the courtesy he has. All is well... here via the above if you need me Best wishes - Mark

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 07/10/24 at 18:30:38 Gosh Mark. . . I understand. . .but. . .I know your input will be missed. You're a good egg. . . !

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 07/11/24 at 00:58:57 Well, that is a bummer. Hopefully Mark will find the time to make a dedicated forum for Verafi products at some point.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by ArtMan on 07/11/24 at 18:50:46 Mark, I hope when you retire, you will be able to come back here as just yourself.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Kamran on 07/12/24 at 04:10:37 Mark, be well.  We know where to reach you.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Lon on 07/13/24 at 20:15:57 According to a post or two on facebook. Mainstream has begun shipping.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by Sean on 07/13/24 at 20:34:57 Wonder if my Mainstream will arrive before my two Snubways arrive.  Not complaining at all, I placed my Snubway orders way late. Honestly the delay is giving me more time to get my UFO25 tube rolling sorted, which is getting real close. Adding more devices why trying to shake out the tubes will just confuse me more.

Title: Re: Snubway by Verafi Post by bloodlemons on 07/14/24 at 15:14:54 Nice.

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