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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16600 - 07/07/18 at 23:55:47 This will be it for today... CD #6... CD #1...
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Re: What's spinning?
Reply #16601 - 07/08/18 at 12:29:46

I took the RCA 807s out and put the NOS RFT/Siemens EL-34s back in the Racheal. I also replaced the white label Amperex 7308s with a pair of White label Amperex 6299s I bought for $50 plus 3.75 shipping, that I need to test. I hate to tell Lon but I've got another pair of 1964 white label Amperex 7308s testing about 80 and well matched on a TV-7D/U I bought for $95 total that I bought from the same seller on the way...they're in the mail.

PS...I definitely prefer the EL-34s, the 807s were a bit too dark for me, hard to believe since I'm the one who usually bitches about a Hot Highend but I just love the RFT EL-34s. It's no surprise since that's what I settled on in the Torii MK IV. I'm thinking that the 807s might be just what the Omega Alincos need to cool down it's hot highs. I also think some RCA double bottom getter 5R4GY bottle shaped rectifiers I tried in the Monoblocks and found too edgy/hot, might be just what the 807s need. Further exploration ahead

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I started with some Nat King Cole and now some Keith Jarrett...

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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16602 - 07/08/18 at 14:07:15 Only got halfway through this before shutting down for the Sunday News Programs. Then this afternoon I'll see a production of the Musical "Hairspray" at the Winspear Opera House. I have been neglecting my Vinyl Therapy...maybe at least one session this week...
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16603 - 07/08/18 at 14:13:21 Hey, Lon...Dana...others. You need to get busy. I've posted the last 15 albums with no help from the Troops...
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Re: What's spinning?
Reply #16604 - 07/08/18 at 16:03:03

I'm on vacation this week and had ALL the family came to stay with us at the coast. (it was fun) I got some Spotify listening in but mostly background. I'll be back home today and have some new music I'm dying to hear. Thanks for the commentary on the 807 tubes. Matching the amp / tubes to the speakers to the input type to the cables that connect them all up seems to be really important and time consuming (and expensive). After that is all sorted then it’s the recordings…(or is it the other way around?) My friend in LA used a cable rental service to try out several different brands to get the match right for his system. His conclusion was that cables were tone controls and you could enhance specific frequency ranges with and different cable types. I like this forum as it helps me find alternate music but also real world experiences with equipment that isn't really available anywhere else. I’ll be back posting soon no worries.

I forgot room acoustics ... sheez

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Tom Waits:
And the newspapers were fooling,
And the ash-trays have retired
'Cause the piano has been drinking,
The piano has been drinking
The piano has been drinking,
Not me, not me, not me, not me, not me

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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16605 - 07/08/18 at 16:15:59 Well Dana, with me it has always been and will always be the Music first but then there is a lot to be gained by tinkering with all the different combinations of Tubes, speakers, amps, cabling and other gear or tweeks. The possibilities are endless as are the recordings to listen to....
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Dana Seasoned Member Posts: 717	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16606 - 07/08/18 at 16:32:52 Over twenty years ago I gave up listening to music because I couldn't hear it anymore. I heard amps and wire and everythiing but the music. I'm back now and don't hear as well as i did then but I am enjoying sitting down and letting the music take me places, which is really the point.
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Re: What's spinning?
Reply #16607 - 07/08/18 at 16:41:48

Sorry Mark that you've been on your own. It's the weekend, and I don't really get a chance to listen to music on the weekends as I hand the time reigns over to my wife, who is still working full-time. And on top of that this is one of the final days that our front deck is being rebuilt, and it's noisy enough that it intrudes even at modest headphone volume! So probably won't be seeing music posted by me much today.

I hate it when real life intrudes on my escapist pursuits!

Congrats on the pricing of those Amperex. I don't mind paying what I did for my recent pair. I suspect they will be really really good.

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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16608 - 07/08/18 at 17:20:32 Ok team, I accept your excuses for not posting I look forward to some this coming week...
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16609 - 07/09/18 at 18:09:14
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24144	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16610 - 07/09/18 at 18:52:06 I was going to listen to "Kind of Blue" but then decided to listen to this one, which should be called "Kindof Kind of Blue" . . . . Mostly Other People Do the Killing "Blue"
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24144	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16611 - 07/09/18 at 22:26:34 Duke Ellington "The Feeling of Jazz" Black Lion CD
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16612 - 07/10/18 at 20:39:23 This was still in the CD Player and I couldn't remember how much of it I'd listened to...so playing again. This is the format I like Chet Baker best...Trio with Bass and electric guitar. Put a Couple 1964 Amperex 7308's in Rachael that arrived yesterday.
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16613 - 07/10/18 at 21:53:37
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16614 - 07/11/18 at 14:14:10 Just bought the 1996 One O'Clock Lab Band CD from a seller on ebay, so I thought I'd kick off the Music with this... 2012's One O'Clock Lab Band album...
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24144	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16615 - 07/11/18 at 14:21:08 Duke Ellington "The Feeling of Jazz" Back to this one. A really nice '62 recorded release that has old chestnuts and newer nuts well-roasted.
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16616 - 07/11/18 at 16:28:55
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16617 - 07/11/18 at 17:10:00
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24144	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16618 - 07/11/18 at 17:13:48 Keith Jarrett Trio "Hamburg '72" ECM
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24144	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16619 - 07/11/18 at 19:16:16 Antonio Carlos Jobim "Stone Flower" CTI Japan
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24144	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16620 - 07/11/18 at 20:28:56 "Secret Ellington" . . . love this. It can be found cheap. . . I've given away a few copies.
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Reply #16621 - 07/12/18 at 13:35:52

Put an Amperex White label 7308 at the input position on the CSP3 in my second system...it arrived yesterday. I had forgotten what had been there...a white label amperex 6299.

CD #1 of 3 of this set that arrived yesterday from Amazon. It had been on my watch/wish list, so when I saw it for less than $6, I bought it...

https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Concert-Sea-Erroll-Garner/dp/B00ZJ5QXDO/ref=sr_1...

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Re: What's spinning?
Reply #16622 - 07/12/18 at 13:55:35

That Errol Garner is a cool set.

I'm back to this one, Jose James "Yesterday I had the Blues". . . . It's a great tool for evaluating the system as it is very well-recorded. I put a pair of Amperex green label 7308s in the Monoblocks yesterday, and the day before a pair of RCA made Hytron OD3s made in '44--best OD3s I've tried yet. And I really enjoy the music as well.

Mark, you might want to try a pair of OD3 in the Torii. . . I was surprised how well they present the bass and the midrange in the Monoblocks. busterfree (Juan) alerted me to their usefulness and I thank him.

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Reply #16623 - 07/12/18 at 14:26:57

Going to have to cut my listening session short...Peter Strzok to testify before a joint Committee of Congress at 10 pm est. Can't miss it

PS... I wish there had been more recordings with Jack DeJohnette in Evans' Trio but the two from Resonance Records are a very welcome addition to the "At The Montreux Jazz Festival" recordings...

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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16624 - 07/12/18 at 14:47:42 Lon, after reading about the OC3 and OD3 in the 25th Amps, I'd decided I needed to get some. If and when I get a 25th Amp, I'd probably get it without tubes...that adds $400. I have plenty of tubes except the different VR tubes above. I have never tried anything but the OA3 in the Monoblocks and Torii MK IV...
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Re: What's spinning?
Reply #16625 - 07/12/18 at 15:28:04

Try some Mark. . . I like OB3 in the Torii a lot as well and I've tried OC3 and DIDN'T like them, too lightweight in the lower frequencies and brittle sounding. Which kept me away from trying OD3 for a long time, but the OD3 gives dynamic bass and a very open midrange, nice with the tube complements we favor.

Right now
"Images of Curtis Fuller" Savoy Denon 20 bit cd

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Dana Seasoned Member Posts: 717	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16626 - 07/12/18 at 15:34:08 "If and when I get a 25th Amp"... HMMMM. The seed has been planted. Haven't been able to post listening sessions as my wife is on summer break from teaching and our music tastes are really different. She likes music that she can sing along to which helps her while she's working.
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16627 - 07/12/18 at 16:41:39 Yup Dana...if nothing else, I have an open mind. I would never rule out getting a 25th Amp in the future. Maybe in the future I could help someone out of a financial bind by buying theirs for half price ....
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Dana Seasoned Member Posts: 717	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16628 - 07/12/18 at 16:53:47 You could always hope
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24144	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16629 - 07/12/18 at 19:16:10 Duke Ellington Orchestra with Rosemary Clooney "Blue Rose" Mobile Fidelity Lab cd
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24144	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16630 - 07/12/18 at 21:24:06 Bob Dylan "Love and Theft" Mobile Fidelity SACD As time goes by this album keeps climbing the ladder of my Dylan favorites.
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Dana Seasoned Member Posts: 717	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16631 - 07/13/18 at 00:59:06 Heartland (2015) Indra Rios-Moore I feel she has a Sarah Vaughan quality to her voice that I really like. Gonna be high on the rotation
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Reply #16632 - 07/13/18 at 11:23:16

Dana, I've saved that Indra album and one other to my library on spotify for later but now this album that I didn't get all the way through yesterday...so good...

Also a bunch of tubes arrived yesterday...a Quad of NOS RFT EL-34s, a pair of white label 7308s and a pair of NOS Mullard GZ-32s. I put a double getter GZ-32 in Racheal replacing a single getter Mullard GZ-32...can't read the date code...

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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16633 - 07/13/18 at 12:10:25
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16634 - 07/13/18 at 13:52:21
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24144	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16635 - 07/13/18 at 13:54:34 Watching Tessa Souter on the DVR via PBS and was intrigued enough to order a few of her cds.
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Reply #16636 - 07/13/18 at 14:59:05

Haha my neighbor contractor who rebuilt my front porch/Deck stopped by to get a final check. I'm playing this SACD at my normal listening level and he pointed to my PS Audio P10 and said "man that must be a powerful amplifier." I told him no, the amplifier is the pair of mono block amps next the P10 and they are about three watts per channel. I had to show him the product page on the website, he didn't believe me. . .

Miles Davis "Sorcerer" Mobile Fidelity Labs SACD

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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16637 - 07/13/18 at 15:24:03
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24144	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16638 - 07/13/18 at 15:35:00 Harvey Mandel "Cristo Redendor" from "Snake Box." When this lp first came out this was actually the first way I heard the Donald Byrd composition. Very interesting album.
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24144	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16639 - 07/13/18 at 16:25:08 Paulo Fresu 5tet "Plays the music of Atilio Zanchi: P.A.R.T.E."
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16640 - 07/13/18 at 17:07:46 CD #1 of 2...
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16641 - 07/13/18 at 18:52:16
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24144	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16642 - 07/13/18 at 19:14:18 Herbie Hancock "Speak Live a Child" SHM-CD
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Dana Seasoned Member Posts: 717	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16643 - 07/14/18 at 00:51:16 Brazaventure Artist: Céline Rudolph Release date: 2007
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16644 - 07/14/18 at 12:09:25
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24144	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16645 - 07/14/18 at 12:50:28 Grateful Dead "Anthem of the Sun" Deluxe 50th Anniversary 2 cd set. On headphones, which is a great way to listen to both the original and the remix (both on disc 1). Very nicely remastered.
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16646 - 07/14/18 at 13:29:21
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16647 - 07/14/18 at 16:08:08
Back to top	"The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with the concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, deceptions, and spoils; The motions of his spirit are dull as night and his affections dark as Hell. Let no such man be trusted." William Shakespeare IP Logged

Dana Seasoned Member Posts: 717	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16648 - 07/14/18 at 16:27:41 case/lang/veirs k.d. lang, Neko Case, and Laura Veirs 2016 Mark, What did you think of the Indra album? Album: For You a Thousand Times Artist: Silje Nergaard Release year: 2017 Los ángeles Artist: Rosalía Released 2017 Grace Artist: Lizz Wright Release date: 2017
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mark58 Seasoned Member Posts: 5647	Re: What's spinning? Reply #16649 - 07/14/18 at 17:11:57 Dana, Indra was good but I would like more Jazz selections,
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