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Re: What's spinning?
Reply #24200 - 10/19/23 at 02:01:36

Nice one Lon, and congrats on the new Aqua II,

Been a long day and the weather here is going ´south´ strong storm tonight and tomorrow with all flights in and out of the country postponed...

Is on day´s like this with the rain beating on the windows and the traffic home from work being slow and heavy that one just needs to hear Jonny Hodges play the ´Star crossed lovers´ From one of my favorite Duke albums with the cat next to me on the sofa and a cup of hot expresso, before the wife comes home from her work and dinner plans take over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTqrRkk0gmg

here´s a sound clip with some interesting out-takes

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Re: What's spinning?
Reply #24201 - 10/19/23 at 02:54:06

Mrs. CA and I went on a road trip to see the eclipse. I need music when I drive and here are some of the choices that helped pass the miles:

When I got home, after being away from the system for over week, I wanted something quiet to wind down:

24/96 FLAC download. It sounds like you are inside the guitar, which isn't my favorite listening perspective. But you can't argue it sounds really good for what it is.

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Same Old DD Seasoned Member Posts: 1070	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24202 - 10/19/23 at 06:05:02 I jusy received my little box from CDJapan this afternoon. I'm still up listening. All but two are Wes Montgomery UHQCD, three of which I have never owned before. Other two are Kenny Burrell, which I have not owned. A great night! This will finish me for the evening. Wes Montgomery, Road Song [UHQCD]
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24203 - 10/19/23 at 09:52:55 Wes and Kenny. That's the stuff! Right now Miles Davis “Complete Live at Plugged Nickel 1965” Sony SACD box set, disc 2B This music has fascinated me a long time.
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24204 - 10/19/23 at 10:36:30 Arnett Cobb "Funky Butt" Progressive Records/Solid Records Japan cd Bass – Ray Drummond Drums – Ronnie Bedford Piano – Derek Smith Tenor Saxophone – Arnett Cobb Recorded on January 22, 1980 at The Big Apple Studio in NY.
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24205 - 10/19/23 at 11:46:35 Dollar Brand (Abdullah Ibrahim) "Zimbabwe" Enja/Solid Records Japan cd Bass – Essiet Okun Essiet Drums – Don Mumford Flute, Alto Saxophone – Carlos Ward Soprano Saxophone, Piano – Dollar Brand In from cdjapan.co.jp
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24206 - 10/19/23 at 12:27:04 Sathima Bea Benjamin "Love Light" Enja/Solid Records Japan cd Bass – Buster Williams Drums, Talking Drum – Billy Higgins Engineer – Rudy Van Gelder Piano – Larry Willis Tenor Saxophone – Ricky Ford Vocals, Arranged By, Producer – Sathima Bea Benjamin From the shelves
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Re: What's spinning?
Reply #24207 - 10/19/23 at 13:03:32

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It sounds like you are inside the guitar, which isn't my favorite listening perspective. But you can't argue it sounds really good for what it is.

Funny you should say that CAJames.

I am just listening to this one from 1974...

and was wondering why cymbals sounded about 6 feet wide on ´Oceanus´ on side one, so I looked on back cover for the engineer and even though this is from 1974 it´s the same one (Jan Erik Kongshaug) as on the Dominic Miller, the whole recording, which is good, is not what one would call realistic, it kind of hovers ethrally in the space. Seems that even though bell-bottom trousers have gone mostly out of fashion our man Jan Erik hasn´t changed his odd mixing techniques ;D

p.s This got me curious as Jan Erik engineered around 700 albums for ECM so I started pulling out the ones that are favorites (mostly Gary Burton ones) and sure enough he´s not the engineer on any of them... Guess his "soundscaping" effects have never really been my cup of tea.

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Rap Senior Member Posts: 94	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24208 - 10/19/23 at 13:33:02 Another ´Tone poet´ re-release
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24209 - 10/19/23 at 16:40:41 Ben Webster "Live at Stampen, Stockholm" Storyville/Solid Records Japan cd Live 1969-1973 recordings. Bass – Red Mitchell, or Sture Nordin Drums – Ed Thigpen, or Frederik Noren Piano – Lasse Sjösten or Teddy Wilson Tenor Saxophone – Ben Webster Trumpet – Arne Ryskog, or Roffe Ericson In from cdjapan
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Reply #24210 - 10/19/23 at 17:25:33

Excellent, Rap. I just got my hands on a small selection of Paul Chambers' work. Great music!

I found this browsing the Playscape site when it popped up in the new column. It's very pleasant, although a little sleepy for some. I only have the set of FLAC files for now, but I ordered the CD.
To me this is a dinner club sound, piano trio, mostly youngsters with the knack for subtlety behind a veteran piano composer.

That's what his CIA is about, Collective of Improving Artists. I often do not care for instructors, but we do need some good ones.

Nothing Bop-like going on here, but very pleasant recording for instances when you have time with a partner who does not care so much for Bop styles.
We just enjoyed this over lunch, set to match the rain outside as a background.

Paul Madsen's CIA Trio, 88 Butterfly.

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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24211 - 10/19/23 at 17:35:52 Moved my phono preamp and turntable power supply onto a PS Audio PowerBase and am spinning this to see if all is set up correctly. It is. And it sounds GREAT. “Duke Ellington Jazz Party” Columbia mono LP.
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Rap Senior Member Posts: 94	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24212 - 10/19/23 at 18:48:59 Rare German pressing "Electronically Re-channeled for Stereo" from 1969 Pressed by Deutsche Grammophon of all people. Monk, Piano Pettiford, Bass Clarke, Drums
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24213 - 10/19/23 at 18:52:38 Keith Jarrett/Gary Peacock/Jack DeJohnette "Bye Bye Blackbird" ECM cd From the shelves
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Reply #24214 - 10/19/23 at 19:41:13

Change of pace,
The wonderful Alice Sara Ott, it´s amazing she´s still playing having sadly been diagnoses with M.S at such an early age.. A wonderful collaboration between her delicate playing and Arnalds tonal wizardry. Is odd I´ve never met Arnalds as I know most musicians here in or from Iceland.. Oh well one day perhaps my brother-inlaw is on same label as him so bound to happen at some point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKfb71M-WwQ&list=PLIYNfzJL0TSfQb63JKC5-q9XvKMozr...

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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24215 - 10/19/23 at 22:30:58 Paul Desmond "Bridge Over Troubled Waters" A&M/Verve cd This one has grown on me over the years. I hear a bit of distortion on this "Verve Original" transfer at times. I may try another pressing one of these days. Also, like many "Verve Originals" this sounds better with the Phase "Reversed" on my DAC. From the shelves
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Reply #24216 - 10/19/23 at 23:33:20

Interesting about phase, Lon. Curious, though.

Since my youth I have been an absolute bully wooger or is it wooly booger (?) about phase "uniformity" from one end of the system to another. It gets involved with about two hundred things to hook together. Sanitary practice is a must.

Altering phase in one place normally, usually had to be done deliberately to correct a mismatched phasing mistake of anomalies overlooked which often caused noise from RFI or some such magnetic source.

Are you saying that your DAC sounds better (on just this recording?) with a fully reverse phased signal from the front end?

Just really confusing stuff, there. Anything more to add?

I do not know how your DAC works, so maybe I am missing the point.

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Rap Senior Member Posts: 94	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24217 - 10/19/23 at 23:38:11 Some records get pressed out of phase, I have a Jim Hall one that was driving me mad til I realised it was pressed out of phase...
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Rap Senior Member Posts: 94	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24218 - 10/19/23 at 23:51:44 right now it´s another ECM as can see by the cover art. (they do have some nice covers...) Rap.
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Re: What's spinning?
Reply #24219 - 10/20/23 at 00:17:53

My DAC has the ability to reverse overall phase itself. In 99.9 percent of the time I don't touch that button (on the amp or remote). But there are some recordings that I don't know if it's because the "desk" or somewhere in the studio the phase is reversed, and the engineer either LIKES it that way or doesn't hear it (some of these engineers have hearing issues). In the case of a number of these Verve Original cds it seems to me that the finished product out to customers have phase overall reversed--lots of treble, bass is diminished, sound stage is all over. Reversing or inverting the phase corrects this.

Another example is the earliest of the Japanese "24 bit by RVG" Blue Note lp facsimile cds. Some of these sound better to me with the phase inverted--it's a case by case basis on the first 100 in the series. (I love these, I collect them, I think I have all but about 30 now).

I used to get behind the speakers and reverse the + and - on one end of the speaker cabling to achieve this; this DAC and a number of others have an internal wiring controlled by a switch--much nicer.

That feature comes in handy on my headphone system as well. There I have a nice Bottlehead preamp feeding my Taboo Mk IV amp; that Bottlehead preamp has its output wired in reverse phase. As I have a PS Audio DirectStream DAC there (the second one I bought that is modded with an outboard power supply and different output transformers) I can just switch it to inverted. . .and it's then really a normal output to my Taboo.

Interesting subtle stuff. I have a "Frankenstrat" that has a phase switch on it as well. . . that's a different story! Let's you get into Clapton territory in texture.

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Reply #24220 - 10/20/23 at 00:40:40

Miles Davis "Big Fun" Columbia 2-LP, Side A, "Great Expectations"

Lucy got a call that will take a spell so I'm slipping this in, my OG vinyl copy that still sounds great. I was fascinated with these 2 LPs for years after their release--grabbed this as soon as it was out. Just such a fusion of all that was going on in the music around me at the time.

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Reply #24221 - 10/20/23 at 00:57:35

OK, thanks, fellas~!

I guess I was reading too much into the situation.

I do know that recordings are not always up to snuff and some are noted, then redone.

As far as your "Frankenstrat" I get it.
There were a few companies "back when" (I will not say "back in the day." That phrase disgusts me more than I can express without a few paragraphs!) that made conversion kits; one or two phase switches, complete with matching pick guard extensions. They had black and white - you chose one.

You had to rout out the electronics bay a bit to fit them, not much for one, but a bit more for both. The kits came with templates. The expectation was that the conversion was done by qualified guitar technicians.
But, with both or either you had a unique Strat set up.

I have installed several! I get it.

It was not nearly as hard or involved as cutting down a B3 to make it fit into two lighter, more easily transported Anvil case types of wheeled cabinets.
I've done more than a few of those conversions, too.
Kind of sucks sometimes, being the smart guy. You might have to do some work.

Music can be fun and freaky! The show MUST go on.
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24222 - 10/20/23 at 01:02:21 This particular Strat was a luthier build that had a black limba body, a wenge neck and fingerboard, two Cool Rails and a Hot Rail, and three volume controls rather than any tone controls. And that phase switch. The wood themselves give this one helluva sound and it's an easy player. A tone monster!
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Same Old DD Seasoned Member Posts: 1070	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24223 - 10/20/23 at 01:06:41 LORDY GAWDS!! What a beauty! I've never seen one like that! I don't recognize the bridge. Is it a Callaham version? Maybe better? I remember RICH made some incredible bridges people were adapting to Fenders of all types.
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Reply #24225 - 10/20/23 at 01:59:34

Not sure about the bridge. It's a fantastic guitar. The swamp figures in the black limba (the "swamp" part of limba/Korina) make it seem as if there are flames pouring out of the bridge. I don't really care how it looks as it sounds so good and can have so many different sounds.

I have a FrankenPrecision with the same tone woods that is a monster as well.

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Reply #24226 - 10/20/23 at 02:43:00

I love it!!
A matching "P" ... nice!

I can only imagine (not really, even) what the specialty woods bring to the game. But, I know it's great.

I had a buddy who had a grenadilla wood neck custom fit to his Strat. Another hard, dark, close grain wood that they usually use to make clarinets and wood flutes.
He had a tone of his own!
He had more in the neck than in the classic '60s Strat unit from which he began. Add his adjustable top grade Seymour Duncan humbuckers and he had a truly unique tool, no one else had.

Guitars are just as personal as the person using them, I have found.

I'm not jealous or anything, Lon, but I do see the love in what you have done seeking your own expression.
Your Stratocaster "monster" is amazing! I'm sure the Precision is just as stunning.

I have nothing to show. All of my expressions are out there being used by many people, hopefully tonight, since it's Thursday night.
You always need a good gig on Thursday to settle in for the weekend money makers. At least that's how it used to work.
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Same Old DD Seasoned Member Posts: 1070	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24227 - 10/20/23 at 03:00:48 I did a late night last night, so I'm going to fade some and call it with this oddness I found recently. This is good stuff! Daniel Smith, Bebop Bassoon It is everything you think it might be, He goes deep.
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ChrisC Senior Member Posts: 77	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24228 - 10/20/23 at 03:15:24 Cowboy Junkies, The Trinity Session A great version of Sweet Jane and Blue Moon on the same album....
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24229 - 10/20/23 at 12:34:15 Dexter Gordon "Night Ballads, Montreal 1977" Uptown cd Someone was asking about this on the Hoffman board days ago and so I found it in the shelves. Sound is okay, and Dexter playing ballads is always a great listen.
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Reply #24230 - 10/20/23 at 17:41:57

´77 the prodigal Dexter returns to Amerika. Was good time for Dexter, Lon, some great recordings he made on his return. Think the Village vanguard live recording is similar date...

But after slagging off old Jan Erik I´ve been going through some of my ECM´s (hard to know how many I have as I dont sort my collection by label (have a friend who does that with all his blue-notes and Impulse, Riverside ect.)

but right now it´s

Sadly it´s a Kongshaug engineered one but found way around it by not sitting in sweet spot and just letting it play, that way stereo image of base that´s panning between speakers becomes a non-issue. :)

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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24231 - 10/20/23 at 17:44:27 Jimmy McGriff "Tail Gunner" Groove Merchant/Solid Records Japan cd Sort of funky disco in a "Stuff" (the Band) sort of way, with a big band backing. First time I'm hearing it but it's sitting well today. In from cdjapan
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Same Old DD Seasoned Member Posts: 1070	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24232 - 10/20/23 at 19:05:09 I am back to sorting the stack for a while and I found a few from this guy. I grabbed the first old Mercury. I've had good luck with these recordings. First I played is really nice. Recorded in '59. Terry Gibbs, Launching A New Sound In Music
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24233 - 10/20/23 at 19:28:31 Rap, Dexter made some great recordings in Europe before and after the return to America, and in the last five or six years a number have had official releases. I just love the "feel" to his playing and that big tenor sound.
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24234 - 10/20/23 at 19:31:22 Terry Gibbs had a long recording career. . . his Mercurys may be his best. I love vibes. . . wish I had a set (wish I had room for one!)
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24235 - 10/20/23 at 20:38:02 Lee Morgan "Caramba!" Blue Note/Tone Poet LP This was one of the "Free" Lps from that "sale" this summer. Free, with 8 dollars postage. Good price. From the shelves
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24236 - 10/20/23 at 22:17:42 Part of the big box of cds from cdjapan I received this week. I've never heard this one before and I like it. JR Monterose "Is Alive in Amsterdam Paradiso" Solid Records Japan cd Bass – Jan Jacobs Congas – Steve Boston Drums – Han Bennink Tenor Saxophone – J.R. Monterose Timbales – Groentjie
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Re: What's spinning?
Reply #24237 - 10/21/23 at 01:01:01

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Rap, Dexter made some great recordings in Europe before and after the return to America, and in the last five or six years a number have had official releases. I just love the "feel" to his playing and that big tenor sound.

Yeah, was a publicity stunt, he´d been coming back and recording for years before his big "return" Been dipping into Maxine Gordons biography of Dexter...

As I take it from the book that big return was her idea...Good marketing it was too...

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Rap Senior Member Posts: 94	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24238 - 10/21/23 at 01:10:54 Will have to look for that Lee Morgan... n1 Lon but right about now it´s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmFI5cIOY0g
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24239 - 10/21/23 at 09:26:22 Something keeps drawing me back to Immanuel Wilkins and his sound and writing. His sound reminds me of both Paul Desmond and James Spaulding and his writing is within the tradition and also fresh. Immanuel Wilkins "Omega" Blue Note cd From the shelves
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24240 - 10/21/23 at 10:38:51 Anthony Braxton Quartet "Standards 2020" disc 10 Alto Saxophone, Soprano Saxophone, Sopranino Saxophone – Anthony Braxton Bass – Neil Charles Drums – Stephen Davis Piano – Alexander Hawkins Producer – Anthony Braxton A lot of interesting interpretations in this set. From the shelves
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24241 - 10/21/23 at 15:45:07 Anthony Braxton Quartet "Standards 2020" disc 11
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24242 - 10/21/23 at 16:41:15 Abdullah Ibrahim Trio "Yarona" Enja/Solid Records Japan cd Wow, this is perfect for the chill drizzling autumn morning we have. In from cdjapan
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24243 - 10/21/23 at 17:53:12 Abdullah Ibrahim & Ekaya "African River" Enja/Solid Records Japan cd Nice larger ensemble arrangements. In from cdJapan
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Dominick Seasoned Member Still like that old time Rock and Roll!! Posts: 1260	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24244 - 10/21/23 at 22:35:51 Finally enjoying some downtime before phase two of my exam prep. Currently listening to the Carmell Jones Quartet on Qubuz and streaming through Roon.
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24245 - 10/22/23 at 01:19:38 Jimmy McGriff "The Main Squeeze" Groove Merchant/Solid Records Japan cd Jimmy with Jimmy Ponder, Conrad Lester and Eddie Gladden. I'm a big Jimmy Ponder fan and he makes this session for me. And the engineering! Great job by Malcolm Addey. In from cdjapan
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Dominick Seasoned Member Still like that old time Rock and Roll!! Posts: 1260	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24246 - 10/22/23 at 03:13:04 Enjoying some vinyl and picked this up for my daughter. The Harry Potter Collection score by the Prague Philharmonic Orchestra. The score was damn good and quality of the recording was not that bad…not too many pops and clicks. This was a 3 disc set and all were made on white vinyl.
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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24247 - 10/22/23 at 09:14:20 Starting the day off with some live Lockjaw--what a unique and spirited player! Eddie Lockjaw Davis "Jaw's Blues" Enja/Solid Records Japan cd in from cdJapan
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Re: What's spinning?
Reply #24248 - 10/22/23 at 10:08:48

https://insheepsclothinghifi.com/miles-davis-on-the-corner/

Reading the article above about this album which taught me a few new things, and prompted me to put it on. This is not like anything else really. A lot of history with this one, including having a work partner for a few years in the early 'eighties that was the first person I met who REALLY knew and liked this piece!

Miles Davis "On the Corner" Mobile Fidelity SACD

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Lon Seasoned Member "Love without guts is worthless!" Philip K. Dick Posts: 24173	Re: What's spinning? Reply #24249 - 10/22/23 at 16:26:42 Dexter Gordon "Live at the Amsterdam Paradiso Vol.2" Solid Records Japan cd Starts off with Monk's "Rhythm-a-ning" which I always hear starting off with the lines from the song: Put another nickel in the nickelodeon. As a kid my Dad always sang that song to us! From the shelves
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