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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #1000 - 04/29/24 at 16:27:15
 
Seems to me it gets updated once a week or so. I saw movement about a week ago. I'm #30 currently for a ZROCK3. Although I take your point--looks as if nothing is being worked on. That may change with the next update.
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Reply #1001 - 05/02/24 at 17:36:28
 
Hi Everyone,

The accelerated list is a live waitlist. However, we are currently waiting on chassis' to arrive for all models, which is why you haven't seen much movement lately.

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Reply #1002 - 05/02/24 at 20:39:21
 
Veronica,
Thank you for the update.
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Reply #1003 - 05/06/24 at 04:57:29
 
i check the list everyday! mostly just to see how many people are ordering amps. my purchase is on page 13 so ive got a long wait indeed. i may need to show up to Deware and try my hand at soldering! i'm sure the wait will be worth it but damn its a long ways off.
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Reply #1004 - 05/13/24 at 11:49:23
 
I got out of the habit of checking and kinda forgot I ordered (Jan 2022). Just received Sarah #39!  Now the burn-in roller coaster begins...
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Reply #1005 - 05/13/24 at 12:57:32
 
Congrats! The adventure begins.
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Reply #1006 - 05/13/24 at 13:07:34
 
Thanks Lon!
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Reply #1007 - 05/13/24 at 15:13:11
 
Wohoo—Congrats!
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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #1008 - 05/13/24 at 18:32:35
 
Right on bhenriks! What tubes do you have?
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Reply #1009 - 05/19/24 at 00:06:04
 
Hello CAJames. I went with the Decware set, added ebay OA2 and OB2 regulators, then Sophia Electric 300B Classic II "Signature Edition" demos and Aqua II 274B <-THANK YOU forum posters for speaking well of that baby! Just two input tubes so far, a gin clear Telefunken 12AU7 smooth plate and a surprisingly good General Electric 5814 from the Decware kit.

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Reply #1010 - 05/20/24 at 08:27:46
 
How many times? I'm too embarrassed to admit how many times I have checked The List. I want to thank Mr. Deckert and the Deckert family and friends and crew who make all this possible. And before I go any farther I want to send condolences to Bluemage for the family members lost while he is doing time on the Wait List. Sorry, Man. Fortunately for me I have not experienced a comparable loss though two neighbors in my building have passed; one last year and one last week. If you consider that there are only 15 units in our building - and the last guy had two of them - that's a pretty high attrition rate. And, sadly, both of those guys were younger than I am. In light of recent events my landlord has requested more complete information on my next of kin and wants to know who is in my will. These persistent reminders of the impermanence of our existence make me wonder ... hmmm? I wonder how many "waiters" were - as I was - born during or before 1950. I wonder how many of us would survive a four and a half year wait. I wonder about the apparent optimism inherent in a two and a half year wait. I wonder how much hearing loss I suffered in those early years of rock and roll when I was young and fearless and I hope there is enough left to appreciate the SE34I.6 I ordered a couple years back when I cashed in my previous SE84UFO slot ordered at last years prices in exchange for a more expensive amplifier named "Rachel" because I wanted EL-34 tubes and the meters (I never wanted meters on any of my stuff before but it seemed appropriate on this amp) and who could complain about more power and besides, I like the name, Rachel. I wonder about all this stuff and more. But this last February 12 (2024) was my 2 year anniversary on The List so I am closer than many and farther than too many. And yes, I think I'm going just plain crazy waiting for Rachel ... I guess I'll order a power cord.
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Reply #1011 - 05/31/24 at 14:54:38
 
Any news on when the ZRock3 production might resume?
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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #1012 - 06/22/24 at 01:08:24
 
In the last week my spot has moved a few upwards so I think there is some movement. . . haven't analyzed if it is ZROCK3 movement or not.
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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #1013 - 07/31/24 at 11:53:45
 
For the first time in weeks. . . my ZROCK3 has moved up a spot! Smiley
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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #1014 - 07/31/24 at 21:43:49
 
Hi everyone!

I wanted to post in here and let customers know that we are now sending an electronic invoice once the parts are pulled for orders. Unfortunately we have been experiencing high volume in cancellations, and no communication after units have been built. This is clogging up quality control and our packing department, while also slowing down the process for other customers to receive their order. It's extremely time consuming to re-assign the amps by making changes to the options, knobs, bases, serial sticker, etc.

We kindly ask that payment is submitted by the time your unit is in Testing, and we will proceed with Quality Control after payment is received.

Thank you and feel free to give our office a call if you have any questions!

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Reply #1015 - 07/31/24 at 23:06:44
 
That is unfortunate, Sarah. Although, I guess it's not surprising given the length of the wait and general audiophile impatience!

In better news, I got news yesterday and the day before that my Wenge replacement base for the CSP3 and three DHC3 cables are on their way to me now, respectively. Really looking forward to getting those all worked into the system.
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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #1016 - 08/01/24 at 14:34:09
 
Some of us are very patient Smiley Fortunately for some of us, we may move up the queue a bit Cheesy
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Reply #1017 - 08/16/24 at 00:29:37
 
Aloha,

What's the latest reasonably accurate calculation for wait times?  I'm interested in a ZP3 and wondering how long it might be.  Are we in the 2 year range?  Or is it more like 3 or 4?

Once upon a time I kept close calculations on such things.  Hopefully someone else has done the current math!

I assume the ZP3 is not on the accelerated list, correct?
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Reply #1018 - 08/16/24 at 01:24:54
 
By do the math, I'm referring to has anyone kept track of the rate of production for the slow list over the past several months?
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Reply #1019 - 08/16/24 at 01:30:26
 
I haven't done any scientific analysis per se, but it seems to me that it is about 3 years wait now.
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Reply #1020 - 08/16/24 at 12:50:20
 
I haven’t kept track of the production rate of Decware amps but I’m 2 years in yesterday. For me to get my amp in one more year would require a rate of around 47 a month. That’s a lot of soldering & doesn’t allow for a disruption of the supply of components. In a corruption of Walt’s dream, I can only hope that one day my princess will come. (Queue rim shot)


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Re: How many times have you checked the Wait List?
Reply #1021 - 09/01/24 at 18:43:02
 
Boy, My ZROCK3 order is stuck for some time! It was at 27, then went up to 25 then down to 26 again. . . . Hope some parts arrive soon and the list moves!
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Reply #1022 - 09/01/24 at 22:44:25
 
I am so lucky. Someone cancelled and I was next in line. The last Z3 out I believe. Of course I would easily give it up if the HRv2’s would be released. 10 months since order. I know they will be worth it, the waiting is the e hardest part.
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Reply #1023 - 09/09/24 at 20:06:33
 
When I ordered the wait was about 22 months. Next week will make it 15 months I've been on the list, but I still have about 16 months to go.  What happened?
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Reply #1024 - 09/09/24 at 20:58:26
 
The list has gotten longer .

If you placed your order in the summer of 2023 then it is possible the amps being built at that time were on the list for 22 months, but the list was shorter when those orders were placed. I received my amps in Nov. '23 and waited almost exactly 2 years. At that time the expected wait for new orders was about 4 years, based on the average number of amps built per week and the number of amps on the list. So if you really will get yours after 31 months that is a significant improvement.
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Reply #1025 - 09/09/24 at 22:46:40
 

I know first-hand, the wait is tedious. I ordered a 300 B on Jun3 2022 and expect delivery in March 2025. That's about 33 months wait. If I did not have my current system, I would have gone bonkers. I'm betting that in the end, we'll both say it was worth the wait. Smiley
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Reply #1026 - 09/10/24 at 06:40:45
 
At least, you equipment folks HAVE a list to check.  We speaker people are just sitting here in the dark.
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Reply #1027 - 10/08/24 at 20:00:23
 
It's all good.  Since my 1 year anniversary on the list, Decware has shipped, or more accurately, removed 217 orders from the list.  This means Decware is averaging 12.76 orders a week. I'm around #1390 on the list.  1390/12.76 = ~109.  109 weeks to go puts me at November 2026.  I ordered June 2023 making my wait ~3.42 years.  

Once I'm off the list I'll probably miss checking the list.  Maybe I should place another order?

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Reply #1028 - 10/08/24 at 20:44:10
 

"Once I'm off the list I'll probably miss checking the list.  Maybe I should place another order?"


Don't laugh off that notion, it's basically what I did. Smiley

After the first round, I signed up for another that will end in December of this year - hopefully. This will be my last time. I mean it this time.  I really, really mean it! Unless Steve comes up with ........
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Reply #1029 - 10/08/24 at 21:07:16
 
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...This will be my last time. I mean it this time.  I really, really mean it! Unless........


Yeah. Pass the candle...
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Reply #1030 - 10/09/24 at 15:18:05
 
Whoa, Mr. RA272
I don’t know how many amps are shipped in a year on average, but I think you’re getting weeks & months mixed up. Maybe I’m mixed-up, numbers are hard. But at the same time, numbers can be our friend.
Just an observation from a retired village idiot. It seems a lot of things going on “now-a-days” are hard for me to understand, numbers included.
Corruption of data can be manipulated adversely all too commonly.

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Reply #1031 - 10/09/24 at 15:30:50
 
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Whoa, Mr. RA272
I don’t know how many amps are shipped in a year on average, but I think you’re getting weeks & months mixed up. Maybe I’m mixed-up, numbers are hard. But at the same time, numbers can be our friend...


FWIW I consider myself a "numbers guy" and RA272's numbers look good to me. Assuming his one year anniversary was the beginning of June 2024.

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Reply #1032 - 10/09/24 at 21:21:15
 
FWIW I consider myself a "numbers guy" and RA272's numbers look good to me. Assuming his one year anniversary was the beginning of June 2024.

Yes June 17/24
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Reply #1033 - 10/10/24 at 00:49:26
 
I now see how I was mistaken by the 217 number being the production of a 17 week sample & not a yearly average.  Reading comprehension at its finest. With a projected monthly rate of over 55 vs. my guess of 47 makes my eta less than 3 years. Maybe.
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Reply #1034 - 10/10/24 at 17:00:06
 
I was very fortunate to have ordered when I did.
A family owned business, and right here in America. So proud of this outfit and the staff. So pleased how successful too.
The one negative I will say though is this... for many of us 'older' folks, it may not be feasible right now with the waiting numbers. Time seems to slip a bit more. But then the good, the order and 'on the list' often reminds of another really cool thing to look forward too. We sure did and still do. Ours is on and playing almost daily. I tossed around the notion of ordering for several days....and thanks to my wife...... Smiley  

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Reply #1035 - 10/14/24 at 21:28:49
 
Any updates on when the ZRock orders will move?
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Reply #1036 - 10/16/24 at 18:05:17
 
Decware must have gotten in a supply of the small chassis. I just received a "Parts pulled" notice for my ZSB.  Yay!
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Reply #1037 - 10/16/24 at 18:27:10
 
Wow, that's (potentially) great news.
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Reply #1038 - 10/16/24 at 22:44:44
 
ZROCK chassis are presently being constructed so we estimate 3 weeks before we get them.
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Reply #1039 - 10/16/24 at 23:13:41
 
Thanks for the update.
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Reply #1040 - 12/02/24 at 23:12:28
 
Been about six weeks since the last update. Hopefully we'll see some units built soon.
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Reply #1041 - 12/19/24 at 11:24:59
 
I moved one up on the list to #23 for my ZROCK3! Probably someone canceled. . . .

I have fantastic sound while I wait, but I really am eager to see what the design and cap change in the ZROCK3 would bring to the system.
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Reply #1042 - 12/19/24 at 14:20:22
 
I’m certainly not sure I would qualify these two releases “jazz” in the strictest sense–over time I’ve come to think of jazz as material more closely aligned to the tradition.

But I used to own these Ayers Uqibquity albums when released and at the time they were in fact a sort of personal joy as no one around me was into these, or the George Duke Epic lps they resemble to me, or electric Miles, or the growing interest of mine in acoustic jazz of the 'forties, 'fifties and 'sixties. All my “peers” were more into Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis, Bowie, and the pop on the radio. . . I was fine sharing an interest in Yes and Bowie, but the rest. . . a little dab did me and they were constantly around me to the point of annoyance.

The engineering on these Ayer albums stands out to me now–my system is so much better and the clarity and texture so prevalent that these sound reborn to me. So 'seventies and yet carefully and skillfully recorded. And fun to listen to! This new three cd set is really a reminiscent and ear-opening one for me.



I followed re-listening to the first disc in this set with the first disc of Miles Davis “Agharta,” the 2023 Blu-Spec CD2 edition. Wow. I have been holding off listening to this as it’s a mood and opportunity item, and the system is different from the last time I immersed myself in it, and again I’m taken back to the time of this album’s first years when it was a solo pleasure of mine and blew my mind. This time the sound of the hall and the textures are so well-presented. . . I love my system and the ability it has to transport me into a musical world. Amazing music! In 1975 Reggie Lucas, Michael Henderson, Al Foster and Mtume were a lift-off stage propulsive unit.

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Reply #1043 - 12/19/24 at 17:24:09
 
Joe Henderson "Page One" 85th Anniversary Blue Note Japan SHM-SACD

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Reply #1044 - 12/19/24 at 18:08:48
 
Dave Brubeck Carmen McRae "Take Five Live" Sony Blu-Spec CD2



Carmen McRae - vocals
Dave Brubeck - piano
Gene Wright - double bass
Joe Morello - drums

Such a great album!
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Reply #1045 - Yesterday at 09:13:09
 
Horace Silver "Blowin' the Blues Away" Blue Note Japan 85th Anniversary SHM-SACD 

I wish it was just that easy, that one could blow the blues away.



Sounds great.

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Reply #1046 - Yesterday at 09:50:28
 
Andrew Hill "Dusk" Palmetto cd



One of my favorite later Hill works.
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Reply #1047 - Yesterday at 19:21:08
 
Kenny Barron "What If" Enja/Solid Records Japan cd

This is a good one, though that could probably be said of ANY Barron cd.

Bass – Cecil McBee
Drums – Victor Lewis
Piano – Kenny Barron
Tenor Saxophone – John Stubblefield
Trumpet – Wallace Roney

Digital recorded by Rudy van Gelder on Mitsubishi X-20 on February 17, 1986 at Van Gelder Studios, Englewood Cliffs, N. J.

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Reply #1048 - Yesterday at 20:04:18
 
Harold Land "Choma (Burn)" Mainstream/Solid Japan cd



Bass – Reggie Johnson
Drums – Ndugu*, Woody Theus
Piano, Electric Piano – Harold Land, Jr., Bill Henderson
Tenor Saxophone  – Harold Land
Vibraphone, Marimba – Bobby Hutcherson



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Reply #1049 - Today at 09:56:27
 
Got on the wrong thread again, though once while listening to the Horace Silver I DID check the list.
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