Tenorman,
Welcome to the forum and thank you.
I think it would be prudent to respond to some of this conversation prior to your very kind post.
Quote:I do not appreciate him making a recommendation and then getting butt-hurt because others don't agree, resulting in some tension with the (non?) affiliate, cryotone. Specifically, you and others expressed your opinions objectively and respectfully. He then called into question your ability to express a fair opinion. That's an unprofessional action at best.
Actually I just pointed out that my (and most others) experience was in alignment with Don’s in that the tubes are generally not perceived as bright… Then I made the possible mistake of trying to explain why some would interpret them as bright without having a lawyer look over my posts.
Thankfully Lon knew it wasn’t an attack on him, but my mistake for not realizing others wouldn’t see it that way has been well noted.
Quote:His actions toward you, allegiance with cryotone, and association with Kevin Deal are not show stoppers, but they are worth noting and not giving him excuses.
This Kevin Deal thing has really backfired. I don’t know him, as I’ve said, but what you don’t realize is that the only videos I have ever seen from him on YouTube are those about NOS tubes and have always been taken by the fact that what he says is overwhelmingly the same as my own experiences. So when that last video came out, I simply analyzed it’s content, not the person. I’m sorry the guy is not popular and people immediately connected me to him as a personal recommendation because it is obviously causing problems. Again, I should have run this past my lawyers or at least common sense so that misunderstandings would be less likely. I guess this is the growing part and in the future I won’t make the same mistake again. ; )
Quote:Steve said the following: "The most fascinating part is that if you grade tubes and pick the good ones and Cryo treat each one with it's own recipe, like these guys do, then it doesn't matter the brand, how much it cost, if it was NOS from the Blackburn plant or exotic asian tubes for giant money, they will not sound better. They can't. The Cryo process is real. It molecularly changes things. You can hear it."
What does this mean? Is Steve saying that the cryo process makes all tubes equal?
No, What I said is the process is real, you can hear it, it changes things. I was speaking about the process, and yes I was trying to suggest that these attributes which I measured, could not be found in non-cry tubes, no matter what holy grail NOS tube it is. Again, my lawyers let me down because I can guarantee you that if you had some of those holy grail tubes treated by Don and Rodger they would probably smoke the crap out of the JJ tubes they presently have access to.
The problem is their process is specific to each individual tube and it takes perhaps 100's of trials per tube to perfect the process. That makes creating a process for NOS tubes completely futile for obvious reasons. That only leaves Slovakia and Russia and China the only three places you can get current production tubes with the soon to be exception of Western Electric in the USA.
Quote:If I follow the context of the statement, that's exactly what he's implying, at the very least. Cryo doesn't change one metal into another,
It actually does. It takes a metal and molecularly aligns the crystalline structure to a far superior, far stronger material. Electrically this is similar to single crystal copper or silver wire.
Anyway, I sincerely apologize for the sloppy writing and decisions that created this unnecessary drama. I will certainly try to avoid it in the future and all of your points are well taken.
Steve