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I am thinking the same Lon, noticing some pretty notable changes this last week these hollow slugs burning in must be contributing to...
I'd say your observations are worth a lot Hearafter as we try to sort out how we might choose and roll slugs, and how their traits might fit into different components and system/rooms. May be more semantics and burnin differences, but other than the Golden States being clearer there than the hollow silvers, and the hollow Rhodium highs causing variable voice presentation, I think your impressions of the slug traits mirror mine.
Once more fully burned in here, seems to me the hollow silver reveals the resolution ranges pretty completely, similarly as the Golden State, but coming in a more spacious way. Whereas, the Golden State, powering the power supply and signal more, it is denser, fuller, and warmer, yet not so full/warm as to reduce complex detail in a big way. And along with the rest, it sounds to me like detail is more strongly presented, making it more focussed with more macro dynamics. So my thought is that they have similar resolution, but present it differently. This is what I liked about the GS here, and similarly the Verafi copper... they push everything notably harder than fuses without losing many aspects of complexity. But as I have said, this level of power push is also what tends to be too much for me in my already dense/full/warmish/resolving system...
So for me, different slug flavors depending on the amount of metal and the type of metal, have been good explorations.....
That the amount of metal changes the sound is no longer hypothetical for me. I feel sure that if we could try 3 slugs of exactly the same metal, 6mm like Golden States, 5mm like Mark's, and hollow, there would be a notable gradation from darker/denser/fuller, to more open and resolving of space and finer information. With my tube gear, more signal intensity to a point shows the range of information more intensely. Then it balances toward bass and associated fullness showing most obviously while consolidating midrange information... Alternately if less powerful, balanced less toward bass and fullness, it will be more open and spacious, empty space needed to reveal more complete nuances of textures and harmonic information...finer detail stuff... more space contrasting the finer information that can get overwhelmed with fullness and consolidation. So I think it is all balancing act, what we like, and likely reaching these, to me, limits, differently with different components and system/rooms.
Interestingly, reading the last paragraph over, I could have been talking about gain tuning, how I tune these balances being a lot about enhancing the signal power and pulling the most from it without it getting too strong. Now I am thinking my gain stages in combination, doing similar things with the signal as sluggos, are part of why my system already had qualities the sluggos help provide, and why sluggos took it too far for me. Again, making me glad we have many viable choices for tuning with different slugs and sluggos.
The Rhodium plate hollows in my pre, and in my PSaudio P5 were on the lean and clean side here also. Whereas, in my digital, they are pretty amazing, partly burned in, I just hear resolving/open revelation with that smooth Rhodium sheen... seemingly none of the complex information masked, important at the beginning. I experienced crazy highs at first in my CSP3 and amp, but they started to settled pretty quickly, and I think continue to smooth out. Now the Rhodium are in my digital and in my warm/rich/complex 300B/845 amp. Partially modified to solve what was to me, excess warmth in its design, the amp was good with fuses. But with slugs everywhere, the clearer hollow Silver with Rhodium sound that was lean in the CSP3 and P5, is balanced nicely by the amp and its rich/giant tubes.
I wonder how long, especially these Rhodiums will take to smooth out and resolve fully. I have Furutech Rhodium jacks on a UPOCC copper headphone cable. It sounded pretty good within a few days of 24 hour burnin, but I was amazed how it kept changing, taking close to 300 to even out as I recall. And every day my sound is still improving now, though nothing is particularly new in there except one slug. Looking back at my Ali orders, my first Silver and Rhodium, both hollow, were put in the system about 5/12, so about 40 days @ ~6-7 hours a day, ±240-280 hours... The second order, also a Silver and Rhodium hollow, went in ~5/25, so ±168-196. And the last Rhodium, in the Singxer, went in ~ 6/15, ±36-42 hours. I am pretty sure I can attribute these smoothing and openly resolving changes lately at least in part to the earlier slugs still being on the move along with the newer one, perhaps including the hollow silver, as this is relatively notable refinement happening.
Finally, variations in tastes and system/rooms clearly effect our choices, and though real for sure, I continue to wonder if we tend to give too much weight to preference differences... Considering different components, or cables, or tubes, there are always those that are most popular and that stay in systems longer, implying some broader senses of consistency in tastes anyway... at least for many. Same with rooms at audio shows, typically there is a lot of agreement on "the best room," or best digital, or whatever.
Still, how we make our systems, progressively shaping our sound, that progression and how it fits together defines what we want as we try to improve. With so much nice stuff out there, and every piece having its individual way of presenting music, seems how we put things together can happen in literally thousands of ways. Every DAC, cable, platform and feet, power and power treatment, tubes, amps, pre stages etc, etc... they all sound different from one another... including fuses, or sluggos as we are learning! And room effecting each and every part of a system, seems unlikely that any of our rooms are just like another's. So where each of us start, and how each balances things together to find the sound we love, especially with new things like Sluggos that are pretty powerful influences on sound balances, it is not surprising that one or another works better in a given setting and in various components.
All systems balancing acts, I am guessing most are likely conglomerations of various levels of compensations... As an example, Fast 15s, Crystal 10s, or Platinum 10 Lii drivers in nice baffles or boxes, built to be super fast and clear drivers and accentuating that fast clarity with upper mid bumps... as I recall, Steve had to adjust some of them down a bit. But adjusted or not, very fast and clear speakers would naturally contribute to future choices, likely defining different needs and choices than starting with also nice, but comparatively softer/warmer/slower HR-1s.... And countless other setup variations inevitably define what is "best" to improve a system at a given time.
So how much of what we love as additions is defined by how well it fills in missing aspects of the preferred sound? And how many even minor compensations led to the current ones? This is a reason why I try to avoid compensations. It gets a little confusing knowing what is causing what, and it is just easier for me to stay on track holding a baseline of relative neutrality. Also, I think ultimate musical resolution is probably easier to find with less colored, yet musically resolving things. But to me, the SDFB is doing important things, potentially a paradigm shifter, so I adjusted the system in a number of relatively smallish ways (mostly), that combined, added up enough to allow it to integrate and utilize "sluggos" with relative neutrality.
Another factor looking at sluggos... I am guessing that the number of them in a setup could notably effect specific choices. If one has one in one component, and another has 5 or 6, the power of their effects so different than fuses, choices seem likely to change as we add more and more. I have six in right now, and every one effects the whole x 6.
In this context, and since my system already did most of the balances the sluggos do compared to fuses, the solids still tend to be too strong here. So at this stage of my room sound, I like the milder push of the hollows. Being closer to neutral, yet compared to fuses, still amping things up with more powerful/smooth/resolved signals... they change the balances less here... in this room, leaving more complete musical complexities across the range in balance, a less colored sound.
Just my story at this time and in this setting!
And remember everyone... to try them all both ways!
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